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To: Rambi who wrote (69548)	5/31/2008 9:41:01 AM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542055

He was talking about politics. He was mocking Hillary. He was disgusting. He was "alien". Impassioned? I really don't think so. Hillary isn't exactly anti-black. He was playing to the crowd at the expense of Obama. That single performance will do more damage than Obama can repair with his next 50 speeches around the country. The folks who want to believe Obama is a threatening alien presence won't look beyond the mockery and disgusting antics, the kind none of us would want to see from anyone at our dinner table. The idea that Obama has to take in and babysit these screamers with their anger management and behavioral issues strikes me as absurd, not to mention political suicide. When unruly students act out in class, do you stop everything and say OK Timmy, let's talk about your needs and make everyone focus on them? Or do we teach them about higher goods that society achieves through polite behavior, i.e. the class can focus on the curriculum instead of Timmy's need to act out? I vote for under the bus. Obama can go back and soothe their hurt six-year-old feelings later. It's not like that crowd is going to vote for McCain anyway.

To: Rambi who wrote (69548)	5/31/2008 9:46:49 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Respond to of 542055

<<<He was talking about politics. He was mocking Hillary. He was disgusting. He was "alien". Impassioned? I really don't think so. Hillary isn't exactly anti-black.>>> He goes with the territory. That is what you get trying to rush Obama to the top. His supporters, however, are pretty smart. They are opportunists, as they should be in politics. They have to rush this process. Barack's baggage is still mostly hidden. If they don't quickly end the nominating process, Barack is not going to survive.

To: Rambi who wrote (69548)	5/31/2008 12:04:04 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542055

Obama does care. He did address this. And I know it has political implications. I did mention some of those. And part of the reason it has such political implications is because people in the white community were completely unaware of the blue eyed priest with soul. He's not "impersonating" a black preacher- he IS a black preacher, in that he preaches to blacks in a black congregation. He has raised black young men whom he adopted. He chose a different community to live in, and to his congregation he is one of them. That whites may find that "disgusting" is probably part of the problem. I don't dismiss the problem for Obama, but (imo) the problem with Pfleger isn't just caused by Pfleger.