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To: Dale Baker who wrote (69650)	5/31/2008 12:14:13 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 541933

I was talking about the phrase "imitating a black man" I think his rhetoric about Hillary was a mistake, and he obviously realized it was too. Since I get impassioned and say rather off the wall things myself, I don't find that so amazing. If you are always temperate and never say things that are out of bounds I congratulate you, but I have little experience of such people.

To: Dale Baker who wrote (69650)	5/31/2008 6:15:13 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541933

>>So gross mocking, taunting and screaming is OK now? I can come to your house and start ranting about my pet causes, imitating another ethnic group and insulting anyone I don't like, and it's your problem if you can't deal with it because I decided I had street cred?<< Dale - I wanted to respond to the "imitating another ethnic group" charge. I lived in Oakland, CA, for a time. It's a city that is 80% black or more. I would go for days without seeing another white face that wasn't on television. In Oakland at that time, I encountered a lot of white people who talked like black people. They had been raised there, and they had adopted the prevalent accent of the place. Nobody thought anything of it. Here's a little story about that. After living there for several months, I was on the phone with someone (a black man), trying to remind him of where we had met previously. It took a while. He kept saying, "Was it in the park?" and things like that. Finally, he exclaimed, "Oh, yeah! The white dude!" I said, "Right. The white dude. Couldn't you tell that from the way I talk?" He responded, "Say no, Blood. You sound like a niggah." Just as I have done when spending time in places like east Texas, I had unconsciously picked up the Oakland accent. I had been talking like that for a while, apparently. Black people I had been working with thought it was very funny when I came in "talking white" the next day. In Oakland it is perfectly normal for white people to talk that way, and I would guess that is also not uncommon on the south side of Chicago. I know this is probably a perception problem for people who have never spent time in Oakland and such places. I can see why they would think that Pfleger is doing it consciously. - Allen