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To: ManyMoose who wrote (69886)5/31/2008 11:46:59 PM
From: Rambi  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 540985
 
What???
Do you hold Bush to the same standard?
Bush has evaded and danced around the drug accusations for years! I remember it when he ran for governmor here. "When I was young and irresponsible, I was really young and irresponsible," he said. Everyone from Al Gore to Newt Gingrich has admitted smoking pot.

Obama wrote honestly about his early drug use in his book. He says he made a mistake. Bush never did until he was forced to confront it in elections and even then he managed to never answer the questions. He drank heavily until 1986- that would make him 40- meaning he struggled with it for a lot of years.

Why do you see McCain the adulterer and Bush as repudiating their acts and Obama not? Seems to me he has said the same thing. Yeah, I was young and wild. Then I grew up.



To: ManyMoose who wrote (69886)6/1/2008 3:38:05 AM
From: Cogito  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 540985
 
>>I used my personal judgment, and Obama should have done likewise. Youngsters are watching. Bill Clinton's assertion that he didn't inhale is questionable at best, so I suppose Obama is right to question it.

Why can't we have leaders who 'just say no?' I don't admire irresponsible behavior unless it is completely and forthrightly repudiated. McCain and Bush both did that early on. Obama waits until he is called on it.<<

MM -

When Obama decided to dabble with drugs, the only youngsters who were watching were the other young people he was dabbling with. It would be a bit much to expect him to have decided, back then, that doing drugs would set a bad example for the youth of the future when he ran for President. He wasn't a leader then, he was just another teenager.

You may consider it a mistake. But we all make mistakes. Maybe you didn't make that one, but you made others.

Meanwhile, you are completely wrong about Obama waiting until he was called on it to repudiate his drug use. In fact, the reason we know about his drug use is that he wrote about it in one of his books (the first one, I believe), and he called it a mistake at that time.

Bush, meanwhile, has never acknowledged his drug use, and has always refused to talk about it.

- Allen