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To: Bridge Player who wrote (70464)	6/3/2008 3:53:09 PM
From: Cogito	Respond to of 541764

>>It occurs to me that what our country "should" or "shouldn't" do is usually a matter of opinion, rather than a matter of objective fact. And that one's opinion is frequently colored, not only by what information has been absorbed by the mind over the course of time, but also by one's particular ideology. IMO this applies whether one is discussing foreign policy, CAFE standards, energy policy, social policy, economic policy, or anything else. Would you agree with that idea?<< BP - Sorry for butting in, but I'll answer that question. Yes, I would agree with that. However, your post appears to miss the point that Ed was making. He was responding to Bearcatbob, who said that the Democrats "want to lose" the war in Iraq, because a loss there would help them to gain power. In my view, Ed properly and eloquently refuted that claim, which was a gross and cynical mischaracterization of the Democrats' views on the subject. - Allen

To: Bridge Player who wrote (70464)	6/3/2008 4:18:17 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541764

BP, re: "It occurs to me that what our country "should" or "shouldn't" do is usually a matter of opinion, rather than a matter of objective fact. And that one's opinion is frequently colored, not only by what information has been absorbed by the mind over the course of time, but also by one's particular ideology. IMO this applies whether one is discussing foreign policy, CAFE standards, energy policy, social policy, economic policy, or anything else." Yes. The fact that someone has a strong opinion is not persuasive unless the basis for that opinion is expressed and makes good sense. That's why it's so critical to articulate the rationale for your opinions instead of refusing to discuss them. You may recall that after stating you supported Bush because of his alleged honesty and integrity you refused to respond to the question I asked about your view of his competence and grasp of the issues. I still find that surprising, more so in light of this recent post. Ed