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To: GREENLAW4-7 who wrote (102051)6/4/2008 8:40:00 AM
From: Broken_Clock  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206188
 
AP
Oil dips below $124 on concern over US economy
Wednesday June 4, 6:50 am ET
By Pablo Gorondi, Associated Press Writer
Oil prices drop below $124 a barrel on demand concerns, comments from US Fed chairman

Oil prices dropped below $124 a barrel Wednesday and after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke signaled that inflation had become a more prominent concern.
By midday in Europe, light, sweet crude for July delivery was down 52 cents at $123.79 a barrel in electronic trade on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The contract fell $3.45 to settle at $124.31 a barrel in the previous session.


That was oil's lowest settlement price for a front-month contract on Nymex since May 15. Prices are now more than $11 below the trading record of $135.09 a barrel hit on May 22.

"The stars for a significant correction in crude oil are lining up," U.S. analyst and trader Stephen Schork said in a research note.

In London, July Brent crude dropped 97 cents to $123.61 a barrel on the ICE Futures exchange.

Bernanke's comments about rising prices sent the dollar higher and diminished the chance that oil would exceed the record highs of last month in the short term. Bernanke signaled the Fed is inclined to leave rates where they are for now, but some analysts said he might be taking a step toward an eventual rise in rates later this year, or early next year.

Evidence continues to mount that oil prices, nearly twice what they were a year ago, have finally cut into demand.

The latest MasterCard SpendingPulse survey found that demand for gasoline in the U.S. fell by 4.7 percent last week -- which included the long Memorial Day holiday weekend -- compared to the same week last year. Averaged over the last four weeks, demand was down 6 percent last week compared to last year.

That dovetails with recent data from the Energy Department and Federal Highway Administration, as well as several other surveys suggesting high prices are cutting Americans' appetite for fuel. The U.S. is by far the world's largest consumer of energy and oil products, and swings in demand there can have an outsized impact on global prices.

In another sign of the effects of high oil prices, General Motors Corp. said Tuesday it would close four truck and SUV plants in the U.S., Canada and Mexico as surging fuel prices hasten a dramatic shift to smaller vehicles.

"Investors are ... wondering if we've got to the point, with prices around $130 a barrel, if that's too much for consumers to bear," said Rachel Ziemba, an analyst at RGEMonitor.com in New York.

Also weighing on prices was the strengthening dollar, which bounced higher on Bernanke's comments in his speech via satellite to an international monetary conference in Spain.

Since last year, a series of Fed cuts designed to shore up the economy has led to a protracted decline in the dollar's value against the euro. That helped feed the record run-up in oil prices as investors bought commodities such as oil as a hedge against inflation.

But when the dollar strengthens, the effect reverses, and oil fell Tuesday as the dollar gained against the euro and yen.

In currency trading Wednesday in Europe, the dollar was essentially flat against the euro, but gained against the British pound.

"With Bernanke implying that there won't be ... more interest rate cuts, that removes one contributing factor that's been driving oil prices," Ziemba said.

Oil prices also fell on forecasts that U.S. oil and fuel supplies rose last week. Analysts polled by energy research firm Platts expect the U.S. Energy Department to report that oil inventories rose by 2.7 million barrels last week. The department's Energy Information Administration will issue its weekly inventory report later Wednesday.

In other Nymex trading, heating oil futures fell 0.80 cent to $3.6316 a gallon while gasoline prices dropped 0.91 cent to $3.3434 a gallon. Natural gas futures fell 12.6 cents to $12.095 per 1,000 cubic feet.

AP Business Writers John Wilen in New York and Thomas Hogue in Bangkok, Thailand, contributed to this story



To: GREENLAW4-7 who wrote (102051)6/4/2008 9:00:08 AM
From: CommanderCricket  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 206188
 
Greenie,

"China cannot handle $100 crude, rather make more Bikes!!"

Do you follow the Chinese RMB/Yuan?

As the RMB goes up in value as it has, the price of crude in $USD goes down. In addition, the government subsidizes fuel.

There is no way demand will drop in China until the RMB weakens or the government throws in the towel on subsidies.

IMO the only place in the world to substantially cut enough demand to make any difference is the US and $4 gasoline isn't enough.



To: GREENLAW4-7 who wrote (102051)6/4/2008 10:47:33 AM
From: Dennis Roth  Respond to of 206188
 
CNPC to Extend Halt in Diesel Exports; Raise Imports (Update1)
bloomberg.com

By Wang Ying

June 4 (Bloomberg) -- China National Petroleum Corp., the country's biggest oil producer, said it will extend a halt in diesel exports and increase inward shipments of fuels to ease a shortage in China.

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Asia Fuel-Price Hikes Won't Curb Demand, Goldman Says (Update1)
bloomberg.com

By Christian Schmollinger

June 4 (Bloomberg) -- Fuel-price increases in Asian countries such as Sri Lanka, Indonesia and Malaysia are too miniscule to have a ``meaningful' impact on global oil demand growth, Goldman Sachs Group Inc. said.

The aggregate impact of price-increases in Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Taiwan, as well as Egypt, Russia, Jordan and Syria, would cut world consumption growth by just 17,000 barrels a day, according to a Goldman report dated yesterday.

Indonesia, Taiwan, Sri Lanka and Pakistan are raising fuel prices as the cost of subsidies mounts. Malaysia will end price controls on gasoline to avoid paying 55 billion ringgit ($17 billion) in subsidies, a minister said yesterday. The countries only represented about 4 percent of global consumption in 2006, according to the BP Statistical Review of Energy.

``Most countries that recently cut subsidies do not represent a significant share of global demand, so increasing fuel prices in these regions will likely have a limited impact on average global demand growth for 2008,' analysts led by Samantha Dart and Jeffery Currie said in the report.

Even if demand in the countries that have raised fuel costs is twice as sensitive to price changes, growth would only be cut by 35,000 barrels a day, said Goldman.

Price increases in China, which accounts for 9 percent of total oil demand, according to Goldman, would have a larger impact on consumption. A change in Chinese levels would lower Asian usage by 30,000 barrels a day for the rest of 2008, the report said.

China has made no announcements that it will reduce cut. In April, the government paid about 7 billion yuan ($1 billion) to cover refining losses at China Petroleum and Chemical Corp., Asia's largest oil refiner.

China Subsidies

Without China cutting fuel subsidies, there will be very little global impact on oil demand from the price increases by the other Asian countries, said Victor Shum, senior principal at consultants Purvin & Gertz Inc. in Singapore.

``There is some talk about them doing something after the Olympics but I have my doubts about that,' said Shum. ``Inflation is at a 12-year high and even after the Olympics, I don't think the government will raise prices.'

Goldman finds Chinese prices have eventually caught up with higher international levels. Current domestic fuel costs are based on crude oil at $90 a barrel, where benchmarks West Texas Intermediate or Dubai traded in February, the report said.

``We believe that Chinese fuel prices will eventually catch up with market price levels,' said Dart and Currie.

India Raises Prices

India today raised retail fuel prices and cut taxes to reduce more than $50 billion of losses at refiners. Prices of gasoline, diesel and cooking gas will be increased from midnight, Oil Minister Murli Deora told reporters in the capital.

Still, the measures will only narrow refiners' losses by about $10 billion, Oil Secretary M.S. Srinivasan said, or less than a fifth of the shortfall this year.

Gasoline prices will be raised by 5 rupees a liter and diesel by 3 rupees, the minister said. Liquefied petroleum gas will be increased by 50 rupees for a 14.2 kilogram bottle.

Duties on gasoline and diesel were cut to 2.5 percent from 7.5 percent and on other oil products to 5 percent from 10 percent. The 5 percent import duty on crude oil was scrapped.

The Goldman report, which was released before the price increase, said India's significance for changes in world oil demand growth is limited.

``Even India, one of the main contributors to demand growth, only accounts for 3 percent of global demand,' said the report.

A projected 25 percent change, or the difference between government-set levels and market-based prices, in Indian fuel costs would only reduce local consumption by 6,000 barrels a day, they said.

To contact the reporter on this story: Christian Schmollinger in Singapore at Christian.s@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: June 4, 2008 08:06 EDT

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China oil majors to tap other refiners, halt exports to ensure fuel supply
06.03.08, 4:10 AM ET
forbes.com


BEIJING (XFN-ASIA) - China's two state-run oil majors, China National Petroleum Corp(CNPC) and Sinopec Group, said they will tap capacity at other refiners, halt fuel exports and increase imports to meet demand projected for the summer peak consumption period and the Beijing Olympics.

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China Stockpiles Before Olympics Push Diesel Prices, WSJ Says
bloomberg.com

By Joseph Galante

May 19 (Bloomberg) -- China is pushing the price of diesel fuel higher by stockpiling it ahead of both the Summer Olympics and the need to rebuild Sichuan province after last week's earthquake, the Wall Street Journal reported.

The country is hoarding the fuel in the event that its power grid fails and it needs to use backup generators, the Journal said.

Low inventories in Europe are also pressuring diesel prices, which have risen 53 percent in the last year in the U.S. compared with a 20-percent increase in gasoline, according to the report.

For the first time, the U.S. is playing a key role in supplying the world with the fuel, the Journal said. Indonesia and the United Arab Emirates have said they will boost diesel imports because of domestic shortages, the newspaper added.

To contact the reporter on this story: Joseph Galante in San Francisco at jgalante3@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: May 19, 2008 00:59 EDT

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Is Oil the Next 'Bubble' to Pop?
By GUY CHAZAN and NEIL KING JR.
June 4, 2008; Page C6
online.wsj.com

Excerpt:

China's Needs

Rocked by the recent earthquake, China is now scrounging for all available sources of diesel to power thousands of generators that have taken the place of downed power plants. Surging domestic demand among Persian Gulf countries also continues to nibble away at available oil exports.

"What will turn this around is a real change in what has pushed this up in the first place, which would be a notable shift on the supply-demand front," said Mr. Horsnell. "So far, we aren't seeing that."

Lehman is in the camp that expects the supply-demand balance to change in the coming months. New Saudi oil production should come onstream soon, as well as big new refineries that will ease bottlenecks and bring greater competition in oil-products markets. Russia is enacting tax breaks that many hope will lift stagnant oil production.

Meanwhile, oil-demand growth is expected to ease in fuel-hungry China, as the economic slowdown in its Western export markets takes hold. China also has been stockpiling fuel in the run-up to the Olympics, and with the Games over, imports might slow.

All this could "set the stage for a significant correction" in the oil price, says Michael Waldron, an analyst with Lehman. Yet even he predicts that may not happen before the end of the year.

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Diesel Prices Soar Ahead of Olympics
By Anna Raff
online.wsj.com

Ahead of the summer driving season, all eyes are usually on gasoline. This year, it's diesel that's going for a ride.

The rise of diesel, and more broadly, the category of fuel known as middle distillates, is driven by stockpiling in China ahead of the Olympic Games in August and the prospect of even more fuel needed to aid the rebuilding effort in Sichuan province after last week's destructive earthquake.

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IMHO, we will have to see China stop stockpiling for the Olympic Games before we see a significant break in diesel prices and for the Olympics to end and the foreign camera crews go home before the Chinese jack up retail prices and put a brake on consumption.

Price increases in pip-squeek economies, like Sri Lanka, won't significantly curb Global demand. China is the Asian demand elephant, Sri Lanka the mouse.