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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (70751)	6/4/2008 6:18:27 PM
From: Bearcatbob	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 542936

"We both know that Hillary is ready now." What we know about Hillary is that she has a history of shady deals (we have also seen Bill in full flame). Some have hope that Barack does not. Frankly I do not know which one scares me most. If Barack really had a history of his own rhetoric I would feel a whole lot better. I submit he has zero history to help make a skeptic believe he will be different. Slick talkers are generally known as con men! I am honestly hopeful that I am wrong.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (70751)	6/5/2008 1:58:15 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Respond to of 542936

Mary, you're right that Obama would likely have made a better president in 8 years. It may be, however, that his mix of talents will be a better fit for the country now than it would have been 8 years from now. It is, after all, the fit between abilities and needs that can create great success. Bill Clinton at one time had the seeds of greatness in him, I believe, but the times didn't bring it out of him. And of course George Bush was running on empty when greatness was called for. As for Hillary, your refrain that she's been treated unfairly by the Obama supporters would have more weight if she hadn't acted so gracelessly and so egocentrically over the last few days. That doesn't speak well in support of the assertion that we'd have had a great 8 years of a Hillary presidency. And she did, most importantly, support the Iraq war for years. That cost her the nomination and it certainly cost her my support. Life is not so unfair sometimes. At least we're on the same team now. Ed