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To: Geoff Altman who wrote (253187)	6/5/2008 2:21:40 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793790

There's one other possible root cause and that's our flowering skunk cabbage of an educational system. With all the political correctness, multiculturalism and relativism being taught is it any wonder that we're cranking out fuzzy thinkers that are only too willing to swept away by Obamas version of the ole Jedi mind trick?....... Since there is a strong correlation between having a college education and being an Obama supporter, sounds like the right idea to me. Obama is very good at sounding the inspirational communitarian notes that are so appealing to this crowd. Since they are comfortable with leftist ideas and don't know any history, the socialist overtones don't ring any warning bells. For me, I just see the on-going disaster of the Deval Patrick governorship of Massachusetts as the model for an Obama presidency. And this disaster is unfolding in a one party state, mind you. Like Obama, Patrick won on an inspiring "Yes, we can!" campaign managed by David Axelrod. But from his first days in office, it became apparent that "No, he couldn't."

To: Geoff Altman who wrote (253187)	6/5/2008 3:13:09 PM
From: Whitebeard	Respond to of 793790

Exactly. The left controls the educational institutions from grade school up. They're producing mindless robots, taught to vote socialist. I don't know the answer, because nothing has been able to break the grip of the teacher's union.

To: Geoff Altman who wrote (253187)	7/22/2008 8:33:11 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 793790

Long Essay on multiculturalism - Identity is That Which is Given By Kenan Malik butterfliesandwheels.com excerpt "...Modern multiculturalism seeks self-consciously to yoke people to their identity for their own good, the good of that culture and the good of society. A clear example is the attempt by the Quebecois authorities to protect French culture. The Quebec government has passed laws which forbid French speakers and immigrants to send their children to English-language schools; compel businesses with more than fifty employees to be run in French; and ban English commercial signs. So, if your ancestors were French you, too, must by government fiat speak French whatever your personal wishes may be. Charles Taylor regards this as acceptable because the flourishing and survival of French culture is a good. ‘It is not just a matter of having the French language available for those who might choose it’, he argues. Quebec is ‘making sure that there is a community of people here in the future that will want to avail itself of the opportunity to use the French language.’ Its policies ‘actively seek to create members of the community… assuring that future generations continue to identify as French-speakers.’ An identity has become a bit like a private club. Once you join up, you have to abide by the rules. But unlike the Groucho or the Garrick it’s a private club you must join. Being black or gay, the philosopher Kwame Anthony Appiah suggests, requires one to follow certain ‘life-scripts’ because ‘Demanding respect for people as blacks and gays can go along with notably rigid strictures as to how one is to be an African American or a person with same-sex desires.’ There will be ‘proper modes of being black and gay: there will be demands that are made; expectations to be met; battle lines to be drawn.’ It is at this point, Appiah suggests, that ‘someone who takes autonomy seriously may worry whether we have replaced one kind of tyranny with another.’ An identity is supposed to be an expression of an individual’s authentic self. But it can too often seem like the denial of individual agency in the name of cultural authenticity..." butterfliesandwheels.com