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To: ggersh who wrote (8516)6/6/2008 4:37:47 PM
From: LTK007  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71442
 
i am hybrid jew, and am now opposed to Zionism having been, STUPIDLY Pro-Zionist going into 1968, when i simply started to educate myself to all the BS i was raised on.
i am embarassed to say in 1967 i signed off letters with Viva Dayan!!!.

i have attached to several posts this that follows.(O but watch those bookmarks go dropping!!! This one is a guarantee.
That the statement involves the words of several Great Jews doesn't matter to Zionist Fanatics.)



To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (77830) 6/2/2008 5:44:19 PM
From: max90 1 Recommendation of 77850

<<This kind of militant Jewish extremism has been making
steady inroads into Israel's political mainstream, as
numerous parties openly advocate the "transfer"
(expulsion) of Palestinians and Israeli leaders have done
little to marginalize and discourage it. What is
surprising is that the widely respected Haaretz, which
publishes jointly in Israel with The International Herald
Tribune, would profit from hate groups and their possibly
criminal incitement.>> Another step to turning the word Zionism into a synonym for Nazism.
i attached this bit i periodically attach to posts

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This text from another post fits dead on what you post--this the warning of jews that saw the dangers of Zionism.

<<For well over a century, Jewish intellectuals—and especially those German-Jewish academics who constituted the mainstream of Jewish philosophy in the last century—have had serious doubts concerning the legitimacy and desirability of harnessing the interests of the Jewish people to the worldly power of a political state. Only the Holocaust, the most extreme demonstration of the evil of Jewish powerlessness imaginable, succeeded in turning the objections of the intellectuals to the Jewish state into an embarrassment, for the most part driving their opposition underground. Yet Jewish intellectuals, even in Israel, never became fully reconciled to the empowerment of the Jewish people entailed in the creation of a Jewish state. For example, Martin Buber, then living in Jerusalem, argued in 1958 that the belief in the efficacy of power embraced by so many Jews in his generation had been learned from Hitler. And with time, this manner of discussing the Jewish national power—which had been a staple of Jewish anti-Zionist rhetoric prior to the Holocaust—began to regain its previous legitimacy. Thus, Israel's most influential philosopher( edit: he was also a class A physicist that was an instructor to Zeev Hed, and who Zeev even admitted to me that, yes, "Yeshayahu Leibowitz was a great man"--max) that was , Yeshayahu Leibowitz of the Hebrew University, had no difficulty calling the Israeli armed forces "Judeo-Nazis," and declared that Israel would soon be engaging in the "mass expulsion and slaughter of the Arab population" and "setting up concentration camps." Similarly, Jacob Talmon of the Hebrew University, Israel's most respected historian, asserted that "there is no longer any aim or achievement that can justify ... twentieth-century battle," arguing that Israeli leaders who justified warfare on the grounds of national interest or historical rights were a throwback to the "Devil's accomplices in the last two generations ... [who] warped the soul of millions and all but exterminated the Jewish people.">>
i dedicate this to post to Hannah Arendt and Primo Levi.