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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (71022)	6/6/2008 8:22:26 PM
From: spiral3	Respond to of 542946

This is a large issue of our current national political situation. How we balance reward and lack thereof is going to be interesting to see. Yes Bob I agree, these are enormous problems. Resolution pivots on one's sense of personal responsibility. Unfortunately, all too often the focus on individuality "uber alles" has not drug along with it, a matching sense of personal responsibility. We are so addicted to ourselves, yet we detach from our obligations and expect harmony. I have to run.

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (71022)	6/6/2008 8:23:47 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 542946

"How we balance ..." Hope and the natural condition of human nobility requires that you stand up to daily challenges, whether it be disciplining your child when they behave badly, give credit to the man who has out performed you on the field of play, or confront a brutal tyrant. We are, as always, tasked with seeming untenable complications, filled with conflict, irony, and paradox. Brutal men walk the earth attempting to conquer, subdue, and subjugate others and we do need to stand up to this as always. When you allow yourself to be controlled by brutal and abusive predators you deny hope. When you deny the decent obligations of one unto another, you deny yourself the opportunity to experience the joy and satisfaction of a life well lived, and your fantasy life of odd sensations, feelings of loneliness, and anxiety are the closest thing to comfort you will have. There's always the Jerry Springer show I suppose.

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (71022)	6/7/2008 12:32:14 PM
From: KonKilo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542946

This is a large issue of our current national political situation. How we balance reward and lack thereof is going to be interesting to see. I agree with your views here, but unsurprisingly see them from the other side. Government should not rush in to mitigate the consequences of poor personal choices, except perhaps for the children of those poor decision-makers. However, your statement that it "is going to be interesting to see" implies that you are so far satisfied with the bad-decision/consequence-matrix and are waiting to see how a Dem-controlled gov't will handle it. I would be far more interested in seeing the poor political decisions of the past seven years punished by more than a loss of power by the GOP. The GWB Admin has thus far skated free of the consequences for revealing a CIA agent's ID, ginning up exaggerated rationales for a preemptive war, improperly politicizing the DoJ, torturing detainees, failing to account for 60% of the Pentagon's expenditures, renditions, etc, etc, etc. Where do those poor decisions rate on your consequence scale?