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To: tejek who wrote (389582)6/7/2008 2:06:32 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578127
 

What is wrong with you? If it were financially suitable, they would be extracting the oil from the oil sands in VZ. The fact that they aren't is an important data point. BTW I follow stocks that extract oil from the oil sands in Canada and they have yet to see a profit. That may change this quarter but it hasn't happened yet. And those sands are on the surface......not buried like in VZ.


The recovery cost for conventional oil wells can range from $1 to $6 per bbl. Recovery of Candian oil sands is estimated at C$12/bbl. Obviously, the cost are slightly higher if the oil sands are deeply buried.

Still, with price/bbl at over $100, there is little doubt that oil sands become very economically recoverable. When you can pump oil out of the ground for less money, obviously, VZ is going to prefer that over mining oil sands. That is not, in any way, to suggest they aren't economically recoverable.

Oil sands will be a significant contributor to the supply over the coming years. Not one bit of doubt about that.



To: tejek who wrote (389582)6/7/2008 3:20:03 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 1578127
 
What is wrong with you?

One of my biggest problems is I am addicted to trying to straighten out fools on the internet.

If it were financially suitable, they would be extracting the oil from the oil sands in VZ.

They are. They would be doing it on a much bigger and growing basis if they had a govt friendlier to the oil industry.

The fact that they aren't is an important data point.

I repeat, they are. About 600,000+ bpd or so.

BTW I follow stocks that extract oil from the oil sands in Canada and they have yet to see a profit. That may change this quarter but it hasn't happened yet. And those sands are on the surface......not buried like in VZ.

Suncor has been booking earnings on its oil sands production for at least the last 3 years according to their 07 annual report.
suncor.com

BTW Did you know 90% of Canada's oil sands are too deep to mine also? The oil sands mining in Canada is concentrated on the other 10%.