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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (71284)6/9/2008 3:32:23 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542936
 
Mary, I posted this piece on the thread a couple of days ago:

Reeve's has it right, IMO. Soaring rhetoric is great, but it was the primary rules that did HC in.

April 15, 2008
Hillary Clinton: The Big Mistake
By Richard Reeves

LOS ANGELES -- Last Thursday, about a year too late, I read the "2008 Delegate Selection Rules for the Democratic National Convention." Not a fun read, I must add, which may be the reason Sen. Hillary Clinton, or her people, and most of the press, did not read or understand its 25 dense pages.

Sen. Barack Obama, or his people, obviously studied the thing, and that is the reason he will probably be his party's nominee for president of the United States.

The document, adopted by the Democratic National Committee on Aug. 19, 2006, is filled with the kind of fairness rhetoric the party has been spouting for at least 40 years. Samples:

"State Democratic Parties shall ensure that district lines used in the delegate selection process are not gerrymandered to discriminate against African Americans, Hispanics, Native Americans, Asian/Pacific Americans or women."

"Each state affirmative action program shall include outreach provisions to encourage the participation and representation of persons of low and moderate income, and a specific plan to help defray expenses of those delegates otherwise unable to participate in the national convention."

That's nice. More important is the fine print:

"Seventy-five percent (75%) of each state's base delegation shall be elected at the congressional district level or smaller ...

"Delegates shall be allocated in a fashion that fairly reflects the expressed presidential preference or uncommitted status of the primary voters or, if there is no binding primary, the convention and/or caucus participants."

In other words, using terms of political art, the Democrats have rejected "winner-take-all" elections in favor of "proportional representation." The best example of that is what happened in Texas: Clinton won 50.9 percent of the overall vote to 47.4 percent for Obama. But because of the way the votes were divided by counties, Obama won 99 delegates to 94 for Clinton.

Understanding the rule, the Obama campaign campaigned everywhere, in primary elections and caucuses in even the smallest states. Two weeks before the Delaware election, polls showed Clinton ahead by 10 percent or more. Obama campaigned there, Clinton did not, and he won the state by 2 percentage points. More important, he won nine delegates to her six.

The same thing happened in small state after state, which is why Obama is ahead in the delegate count. If states still had winner-take-all primaries, Clinton, who won more votes in California, New York and Texas, would have easily won the nomination. But again, she had not read the rules and Obama had.

There was a myth at the center of the Clinton campaign, the idea that she and her husband, the former president, had a nationwide organization ready to knock on every door in America. Not so. The Clintons had many friends, but no organization. Bill and Hillary were always top-down, media candidates. Obama's manager, David Axelrod, a former Chicago Tribune reporter, did build a national knock-on-any-door campaign, an old-fashioned Chicago-style campaign -- and it worked.

It is hard not to feel sorry for Hillary Clinton. She expected her campaign to be a walkover, and there she was like a deer in the headlights when the Obama Express came roaring down the tracks. She was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

This is not a new thing in presidential politics. In my experience, the new guys, new managers, usually win. And Axelrod was the new guy, as Karl Rove was the new guy in 2000, and before him there was James Carville and George Stephanopoulos, Lee Atwater, Hamilton Jordan and Jody Powell.

The new guys win because they have to learn the rules from scratch. The old guys play by old rules, run the same old campaigns that worked before -- and it is often too late for them when they realize the game has changed. Poor Hillary and her strategist Mark Penn just didn't get it.

realclearpolitics.com



To: Mary Cluney who wrote (71284)6/9/2008 3:39:30 PM
From: Sam  Respond to of 542936
 
And this from Beth Fouhy (the most important part of a longer piece she recently did in a post-mortem piece):

Super Tuesday primaries on Feb. 5 looked at first to be a strong showing for Clinton, though not the knockout blow her camp once anticipated.

In fact, a miscalculation about that day propelled her long and steady decline.

Although she won large state primaries — California, New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts — she all but ceded caucuses to Obama in places like Colorado, Minnesota and Kansas. By the final count a few days later, Obama had collected a few more delegates than Clinton of the nearly 1,700 at stake that day.

Clinton had developed an aversion to caucuses after her bad experience in Iowa; she even publicly called them unrepresentative and undemocratic. Combined with poor budgeting and a poor understanding of the party's system of proportional allocation of delegates, that led to catastrophic strategic planning for the Super Tuesday contests.

When Clinton was still riding high in the polls, campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe, chief strategist Mark Penn and other advisers believed she would come close to clinching the nomination by winning large — if expensive — primary states. The campaign had budgeted accordingly.

Other Clinton advisers, including Ickes, had vainly warned that proportional allocation would allow Obama to pick up plenty of delegates in the states Clinton won on Super Tuesday and dozens more in the caucus states if Clinton did not contest them.

Those warnings went largely unheeded and the big-state Super Tuesday strategy failed badly. Clinton's campaign was left nearly broke, with no real plan for how to approach the contests to come. Obama scored 11 straight wins in February alone, while Clinton was forced to lend her campaign $5 million just to stay afloat. He took the overall delegate lead Feb. 12 and never lost it.
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All the rest of it is just BS talk, IMHO. It's the rules and how the Obama team exploited them and the Clinton team misread them that actually made the effective difference in this campaign.



To: Mary Cluney who wrote (71284)6/9/2008 4:19:56 PM
From: Patricia Trinchero  Respond to of 542936
 
"She was dragged through MSM with unprecedented vitriolic sexism.

Did that have anything to do with her losing? "

Of course it does, but we can't change the need for some males to belittle women, especially when the woman is so powerful.

I once read a proverb that has always resonated with me and it is also true in Hillary's case.

It reads like this:

"Beware of men who try to belittle and control you................their real aim is your personal destruction".



To: Mary Cluney who wrote (71284)6/9/2008 4:49:04 PM
From: Steve Lokness  Respond to of 542936
 
Mary;

She was dragged through MSM with unprecedented vitriolic sexism.


I came out for Obama after he lost NH and blamed no one but himself. How refreshingly honest I thought - instead of always finding someone else to blame. Hillary might have won had she taken the same stand - instead of blaming the media. Women should learn from this mistake.

steve