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To: The Vet who wrote (4900)6/10/2008 7:41:02 AM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 16955
 
Vet,

I'm a GW agnostic... I'm not close to smart enough to figure out if GW is manmade or if our super complex weather system will somehow self correct if it is. So I'm not even going to argue that; just saying that cap and trade HAS worker in the past, and might work again.

That said I think the most important issue facing the country is curtailing our oil consumption. Not because of global warming, but for <many> economic and national security reasons. With 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's oil consumption, we are especially vulnerable to economic catastrophe. Our economy runs on tires; our entire society is centered around vehicles. If we don't figure out how to turn those tires using a lot less oil then we deserve what we get. And what we are getting right now is a transfer of wealth overseas.

It's not going to get better, in fact will get much worse, unless we make it get better.



To: The Vet who wrote (4900)6/10/2008 4:47:22 PM
From: Archie Meeties  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 16955
 
So you're saying that just because CO2 is a naturally occurring gas that its ok to put more of it in the atmosphere? Do you have the same thoughts about Mercury?

"Mercury is a naturally occurring element...When coal is burned, mercury is released into the environment. Coal-burning power plants are the largest human-caused source of mercury emissions to the air in the United States...Mercury in the air eventually settles into water or onto land where it can be washed into water. Fish and shellfish are the main sources of methylmercury exposure to humans." epa.gov

Similarly, the ecosystem can absorb only so much CO2 in a given time, its a system that can become imbalanced.

Page 3 is illustrative of this.

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