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To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (71735)	6/12/2008 3:05:23 AM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542519

>>Obama wouldn't have wasted his time and money had he been told that he would not be supported by key Democrats.<< Patricia - Fine, but once he was running, and had the lead in delegates and the number of state contests won, were they supposed to just tell him to bow out? if the Democratic party leadership had pressured someone to get out of the race in late March, it wouldn't have been Obama feeling the heat. But you know what? We're never going to get anywhere running around this same track. You believe Hillary was robbed, and I think she was defeated narrowly, but fairly, according to rules she herself had agreed to, in a very tough fight. We will never agree, no matter how many times each of us repeats the same points. - Allen

To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (71735)	6/12/2008 8:38:11 AM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542519

If Obama beats Hillary with less experience then beats McCain with less experience, the party elders will look pretty smart for having picked up on the change theme in this election, instead of just fighting the last two elections all over again. Amazing how we are five months from the final vote and the thread is full of people who have already figured out exactly what's going to happen. Someone else dropped in and posted here a few months back how Obama was absolutely not going to get the nomination. He was wrong. Time will tell.

To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (71735)	6/12/2008 8:45:03 AM
From: ChinuSFO	Respond to of 542519

This news blows away the Clinton theory and the theory pushed forward by pundits that women voters are dumb. They are not dumb to not support Obama and blow away their opportunity to have SC judges favorable to their rights. Barring a few, I have known women to be very smart folks when it comes to politics. ========================================= Obama is gaining women's support Combined wire services Published: Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:08 a.m. MDT ....contd at deseretnews.com