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To: Lane3 who wrote (72195)6/14/2008 3:33:37 PM
From: Dale Baker  Respond to of 542027
 
For example, if a few thousand of these guys, whoever and whatever they are, decided to cross the southern border at Nogales and do some damage

That's the supreme irony; if they did attack us like that the war would be over in days if not hours, because these folks are incapable of holding an inch of US territory, i.e. they can't be an existential threat.

We don't have a definable enemy or definable theaters of war. It certainly isn't "war" in any sense where we could ever declare victory, so pursuing it under the laws of war doesn't add up.

If people don't want to call it criminal, then invent a new category with new laws to pursue bad guys and protect the good guys. Let's just not call it then next World War and put on our Churchill and Truman masks and play pretend so we can be tough.

That makes me puke.



To: Lane3 who wrote (72195)6/14/2008 5:52:31 PM
From: Cogito  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542027
 
>> But if these guys are civilians on their way to commit a crime, do we have to wait until a crime is committed and then punish them, which is what we do with criminals such as stalkers? <<

Karen -

No, if we have the evidence, we can detain them and charge them with conspiracy.

- Allen