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To: MJ who wrote (254477)	6/14/2008 4:17:52 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793696

Couple of things...Re the Found Rev War ship and what we can or can't do things about... So much of what happens in the world we can't do anything about, but what we can, we should do....i.e. high gas prices, high food prices, people out of work because of energy costs, starving people in the world because of high energy costs, etc....is something we CAN and SHOULD be doing something about. The frustration is that our up-and-locked Congress chooses to stay in office and do absolutely nothing, except occasionally bleat about impeaching GWB. A cousin lives in Iowa....we both heard 89 of the 93 counties there are waterlogged....She lives in one of the middle counties, and no floods, but the ground is totally saturated. Lives on a small hill, but has water in the basement from water in ground. Her husband is a trucker....Huge price of fuel is hindering big time what he can do! I told her that across the nation, the truckers need to have a Million Man march just to make Congress understand that many of out here in the hinterland are furious they are doing NOTHING and have done NOTHING for entirely too many years. It is our fault as well....we think we can't do anything about this bad news, and we keep voting these clowns into office. And MOST US citizens don't bother calling their Senators and Reps offices to tell them what we think. On the 1780 Ship: See next note

To: MJ who wrote (254477)	6/14/2008 4:18:46 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793696

Revolutionary War-era Brit ship found in Lake Ontario By Associated Press \| Saturday, June 14, 2008 \| bostonherald.com \| U.S./ Northeast Region multimedia.heraldinteractive.com SYRACUSE, N.Y. - A 22-gun British warship that sank in a 1780 gale during the American Revolution has been found at the bottom of Lake Ontario, well-preserved in the cold, deep water, explorers announced yesterday. Shipwreck enthusiasts Jim Kennard and Dan Scoville used sonar and an unmanned submersible to locate the 80-foot sloop HMS Ontario, which was lost with as many as 130 people aboard. “To have a Revolutionary War vessel that’s practically intact is unbelievable. It’s an archaeological miracle,” said Canadian historian Arthur Britton Smith. The finders say they regard it as a war grave and have no plans to raise it or remove any artifacts, noting the ship is still the property of the Royal Navy. The ship is in water up to 500 feet deep and can only be reached by the most experienced divers. Kennard and Scoville declined to give its location, saying only it was found off the southern shore. The sloop is resting partially on its side, with two masts standing up more than 70 feet from the bottom. “Usually when ships go down in big storms, they get beat up quite a bit. They don’t sink nice and square. This went down in a huge storm, and it still managed to stay intact,” Scoville said. “There are even two windows that aren’t broken . . . . It’s a beautiful ship.” Smith, who was shown underwater video of the find, said: “If it wasn’t for the zebra mussels, she looks like she only sunk last week.” The Ontario went down without a trace on Oct. 31, 1780, with 60 British soldiers, a crew of about 40, mostly Canadians, and possibly about 30 American war prisoners. Article URL: bostonherald.com