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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (72397)	6/16/2008 5:01:16 PM
From: spiral3	Respond to of 542941

Cap and trade will be an economic disaster. Plse, pursuing atmospheric efficiencies economically are far more likely to be beneficial than harmful. Our wealth tracks quite nicely with increases in energy efficiency. Obviously a lot depends on how any particular program is structured. Cannot everyone see that a $7 tillion tax revenue is a $7 trillion cost increase to US corportations? Perspective man. That be $7 trillion, over fifty years, the proverbial drop in the bucket. What do the unemployed get? They get the dividend, Reich’s proposal is a workaround to that problem. A CO2 policy without a matching energy policy is plain and simple stupid. Let me get this straight. You say that one without the other is plain and simple stupid but you don’t appear to want a CO2 policy. The good/bad news is that we already do have an energy policy, so beware of resisting your own observation. The extent to which it’s a real policy is debatable, but anyway you can check it out here, whitehouse.gov. I agree that on one level these two go hand in hand, that you need both. To what extent do you want the govt to be involved in the transformation ? Sounds to me like you’re calling for more govt intervention. We need a set of initial conditions that will encourage a shift in the direction we need to take. We can argue about policy but the crux of the issue will remain, do we need to do anything about it. What is wrong with creating a market, ultimately an international one, where carbon credits can be freely traded. Allow price to drive innovation. Clean up the planet. What’s not to like. The notion of cooperation seems anathema to those brought up on competition. The notion of fortress America is not a zero sum situation. We are as strong as the weakest link in the chain. Best get used to it fast, the rules aren’t going back to the way they once were. The US and the EU has to force China to get on board. Any suggestions ? We should have been ahead of the game years ago. The longer we wait the harder it gets.