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To: tejek who wrote (391733)6/17/2008 12:45:32 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1577143
 
"Now the ANWR which you all are so psyched up to despoil has the sour crap that we don't even use"

McSame is for drilling off the coasts, but NOT in ANWAR!



To: tejek who wrote (391733)6/17/2008 2:19:47 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577143
 
Lets have some accuracy:

the Saudis are having trouble unloading their 'sour' crude on the markets at a $25 discount to the Brent crude which is the crude commanding the $140 price tag and is the light, 'sweet' stuff? Literally, they have the stuff in ships waiting to go somewhere but there are no takers and they may have to discount it even more.

Reliance is opening a new refinery in India which can handle 500,000 bpd of that crude. And there are refinery projects underway in the Persian Gulf countries that will handle more.

Now the ANWR which you all are so psyched up to despoil has the sour crap that we don't even use.

How could you possibly know what ANWR crude will be?

Prudhoe Bay produces intermediate sour crude. Perhaps you're generalizing from that. BTW Prudhoe Bay crude goes to west coast US refineries and Prudhoe Bay is now in decline. If ANWR crude is exactly like Prudhoe Bay (and no one knows) it will find a market there.

Another point, Prudhoe Bay has not been despoiled. The caribou and other wildlife is doing fine.

BTW you will find liberal propagandists spreading the meme that Alaskan oil goes or will go to Japan (thus we shouldn't care if drilling is allowed there). Here is the truth:

As a reaction to oil price and supply concerns, questions about the export of crudeoil produced on Alaska’s North Slope are often directed at Members of Congress. The export of this oil had been prohibited by the 1973 law allowing the construction of the pipeline system now transporting oil to the ice-free, southern Alaska port of Valdez. But following a period of depressed oil prices, legislation was enacted in 1995 permitting export. Relatively small amounts — never more than 7% — of Alaskan crude were sold to Korea, Japan, China, and some other countries. These exports stopped by 2000.
ipmall.info.

America has more refineries that can handle heavy and sour crudes than most countries. Because we've been using such crude from VZ and MX a long time. And we could always build more such refineries or expand existing supply.

So then we would have to compete with the Saudis to try and find a place to unload.......the most likely place is Japan.
See above.

If the oil in the Gulf is the sweet stuff, then I say go for it.

And we are.

In addition, we have a huge pool of NG that is not getting tapped. We need to go after it asap. It is now cheaper than oil and we produce most of our NG locally.

And we are doing that too. High prices are the ultimate spur to producing such resources.



To: tejek who wrote (391733)6/17/2008 7:07:49 PM
From: steve harris  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577143
 
Again,
what does your post have to do with the fact that the 10 year delay in delivering crude continues to be repeated from the opposition to securing our own oil supply?

Are you guys all reading off the same FAX from the Sierra Club?