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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (31246)6/17/2008 9:46:10 PM
From: mph  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224757
 
Well, let's see:

nhpr.org
Obama says there's no reason to give the president's troop surge more time.

"Here's what we know. The surge has not worked. And they said today, 'Well, even in September, we're going to need more time.' So we're going to kick this can all the way down to the next president, under the president's plan."

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He certainly predicted failure:
americanthinker.com

"I cannot in good conscience support this escalation. It is a policy which has already been tried and a policy which has failed. Just this morning, I had veterans of the Iraq war visit my office to explain to me that this surge concept is, in fact, no different from what we have repeatedly tried, but with 20,000 troops, we will not in any imaginable way be able to accomplish any new progress."

Have you ever checked out Obama's 2007 legislation, calling for the troops to be withdrawn by March 2008?
ginacobb.typepad.com

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I realize that Obama seldom says anything concrete, which is likely why his disciples have such difficulty understanding him.

However, there's little doubt that Obama gave no credence to the surge strategy, opposed it, and changed the subject to other criteria after it proved effective.

Kenneth, you caught the change in subject.
But it doesn't change Obama's position.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (31246)6/18/2008 9:06:41 AM
From: DizzyG  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224757
 
Wrong again, Kenneth...

You said this:

"Obama didn't use the word."

And the O-Man said this with respect to the "surge":

But the overall strategy is failed because we have not seen any change in behavior among Iraq's political leaders.

Parse it all you like, Kenneth. But your boy said that the surge failed. You are wrong again...get over it.

Diz-