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To: JohnM who wrote (72862)6/18/2008 2:51:37 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542785
 
Should Obama get elected, he will have to get the troops out. The only question will be how to manage it.

John, McCain will have to draw down troops too. We are overextended, they are exhausted. And no one else in the world will be moving troops in to help out.

Well, maybe Turkey and Iran would be willing. But somehow I doubt that they would be acceptable to Iraq or the US.



To: JohnM who wrote (72862)6/18/2008 4:57:21 PM
From: Steve Lokness  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542785
 
John;

Should Obama get elected, he will have to get the troops out. The only question will be how to manage it.

Yes of course, but if things come apart as we try to withdraw, what then? The Friedman piece is all about figuring stuff out now. IMO anything less than just being willing to give up on our effort in Iraq and concentrating our efforts in Afghanistan is a poor strategy - because efforts spent in Iraq take away from our ultimate chances for success in Afghanistan. Friedman seems to think because things are going better in Iraq - which they are - that there is still something salvageable there.

From the Friedman piece; As a result, what we do next in Iraq — how and why — is barely getting discussed in the presidential campaign.

My argument was that Friedman has an unrealalistic optimistic attitude towards Iraq by trying to separate it from the Afghanistan effort. A simplistic outlook by compartmentaling the issues in the ME - not unlike that of Bush's. In my mind as a long time NYTimes reader, Friedman has never had a clear understanding of Iraq.

steve