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To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (77927)	6/21/2008 7:20:49 PM
From: LTK007	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

<<Are even Zionist fanatics and neo-cons that crazy?>> The U.S. decided there was nothing wrong in fire bombing such places as Tokyo and Kyoto and killing 1 million children women and elderly Japanese, and prodeeding two kill 200,000 more with two Nukes.And the 250,000 thousands killed in the firebombing of Dresden(the MOST anti-Hitler City in all of Germany) by Brits and U.S. was also considered o.k. It was viewed as morally acceptable. So are they that crazy???? i can't say they definitely are not that crazy. i recommend this book highly. It has gotten both RAVE reviews to being denounced as treasonous by others. Human Smoke: The Beginnings of World War II, the End of Civilization (Hardcover) by Nicholson Baker (Author) He places much of the "End of Civilization" on Churchill and Roosevelt for their diabolical commitment to use of air power for mass destruction. He writes that Churchill loved war, the more brutal the more excited he got.He also said Churchill was not an alcoholic because no alcoholic could drink that much. Churchill was perpetually embalmed in alcohol. A bombastic bullying asshole with a love of cruelty, such as he was the first human to ever ORDER the air bombing of poison gas on civilians(Iraqis in the 1920s) with the comment "What does it matter, the arabs are just savage beast" Book Description Bestselling author Nicholson Baker, recognized as one of the most dexterous and talented writers in America today, has created a compelling work of nonfiction bound to provoke discussion and controversy -- a wide-ranging, astonishingly fresh perspective on the political and social landscape that gave rise to World War II. Human Smoke delivers a closely textured, deeply moving indictment of the treasured myths that have romanticized much of the 1930s and '40s. Incorporating meticulous research and well-documented sources -- including newspaper and magazine articles, radio speeches, memoirs, and diaries -- the book juxtaposes hundreds of interrelated moments of decision, brutality, suffering, and mercy. Vivid glimpses of political leaders and their dissenters illuminate and examine the gradual, horrifying advance toward overt global war and Holocaust. Praised by critics and readers alike for his exquisitely observant eye and deft, inimitable prose, Baker has assembled a narrative within Human Smoke that unfolds gracefully, tragically, and persuasively. This is an unforgettable book that makes a profound impact on our perceptions of historical events and mourns the unthinkable loss humanity has borne at its own hand.

To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (77927)	6/21/2008 7:53:14 PM
From: LTK007	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

EDITED:i will not pretend that the concluding scene of THE GREAT ANIME MASTERPIECE "Grave of the Fireflies" caught me unprepared and i broke down in uncontrolled SOBBING. This is NOT the last scene. It is clips put together of a movie that is a true story of a boy and his sister that survived the firebombing of Kyoto only to have his sister perish in the horrid aftermath of what we america gave to Japan, with the NEW WARFARE, firebombing of the innocents, the civilian populace( are targets were not factories, nor military, but just to kill kill kill as many civilians as possible. BEFORE Hiroshima and Nagasaki we has already killed one million innocents. This carried out by Curtis Lemay but Roosevelt was the primary planner,Roosevelt was everybit as blood lust cruel as Curtic Lemay. They new exactly what they were doing, slaughter by fire as many civilians as possible---ruthless Here is a clip used to background a "Someday" type hope song. It shows bits of the firebombing and burning city. youtube.com Here is 2nd clip just 2minutes plus a bit. youtube.com The whole movie is available on you tube in parts. i have shown no glimpse of the closing scene.