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To: tejek who wrote (24605)	6/24/2008 7:01:40 PM
From: TARADO96	Respond to of 149317

Good news from Michigan (shamelessly stolen from Obama blog): Michigan Still Blue \| Report to Admin Reply By Ben from Monroe, NY Today at 5:50 pm EDT While it is, of course, still early -- certainly too early to gauge the Lindsay Graham Meet The Press drama queen effect on the election -- it's good to see that the more state polls that are released, the more Barack Obama appears to be shoring up the Kerry coalition of states. The latest to fall into its natural state of blueness: Michigan. Public Policy Polling (573 LVs, June 21-22, MOE +/- 41.%) has released the first poll out of Michigan since Al Gore endorsed Barack Obama there on June 16th and, despite the media's greatest hopes, it's looking as though the idea that McCain has a shot in hell at Michigan looks to be yet another of the great 2008 electoral myths in need of debunking. Candidate PPP Pollster Obama 48 46.5 McCain 39 40.7 John Kerry beat George Bush here in 2004 by 3%. Some analysis from PPP's blog: Barack Obama begins the general election in Michigan with a nine point lead. There are strong indications within the poll that party unity is close to full strength in the state. This is the first state where PPP has found Obama doing a better job of holding Democratic voters within the party (78-12) than McCain has of nailing down the Republican vote (74-19). Obama also has a 40-36 lead with independent voters, which Michigan has a lot of. Obama's going to win any state where he's leading the white vote, and he has a 44-42 lead with it at this point. His 76-18 lead with black voters is likely to end up being larger on election day- pre-election polls frequently under estimate the percentage of the African American vote that Democratic candidates end up garnering. Now, it should be noted that this poll, as of now, appears to be somewhat of an outlier, with the most recent poll taken June 9th showing Obama up just 3, so it will, as always, be interesting to see if other polls follow suit. One concern is that PPP's polling methodology may somehow favor Obama, as their recent state polls have shown Obama up by 11 in Ohio and up by 2 in Virginia. As PPP's own analysis admits:

To: tejek who wrote (24605)	6/24/2008 7:27:33 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 149317

We truly are living in Alice's world. The great psychologist Eric fromm once said: "he who adjusts sucessfullly to a neurotic system is the most neurotic person of all e.g. Nazi's. Imagine how rare an existential athiest like me is-lol. I have had to weave my way through politics keeping my BEST ideas to myself my whole life. I am an old man now, but I think living a life swimming upstream every single day makes one a bit hysterical as they near the end of their life. Holding on to ones sanity becomes a full time job-lol. And as the great philosopher Montaign once said: "the older I get the less I fear to say what is on my mind. I have read the biographys of many great men and women to try and learn from them and see how they lived their lives. Most beame quite depressed as they grew older seeing just how shallow and mean people can be. Mark Twain would not allow his"letters in the wind" to be published until his death. It lambasts religion. Einstein decided to die early rather than have heart sugery. He was to disallusioned at the end of his life. Said he would go easy. We not only vote in a fool and criminal like bush twice, we seriously listen to crazy people like Pat robertson, falwell, Dobson, Hagee, and on and on. And look who the neo cons put on the supreme court: Scalia whom is so mean and nasty Rhenquist, a sociop[ath IMO Thomas stockholm syndrom or just an opportunist. The blacks are embarrased by him. The blacks get one person on the supreme court and the republicans do that to them. The dems put in Thrugood marshall-a great man African americans were proud of and could use as a role model. The republicans put in a fool who the blacks hate. And they wonder why African Americans vote 9 to 1 for dems. Alito and Roberts. Not sure what is wrong with them, but my read of them tells me they are both out to lunch at best and venel at worst.