To: longnshort who wrote (114226 ) 6/28/2008 5:43:28 PM From: Skeeter Bug Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 132070 ls, here's an article that supports second hand support not being as dangerous as the surgeon general would have us believe.webmd.com in other words, it supports that second hand smoke isn't measurably killing people. but, as i said, that doesn't prove your point. it also found that there some unhealthy effects. "and reports only a slight increased risk of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease." a slight increase in chronic obstructive pulmonary disease is unhealthy, even if it doesn't lead to death. rat poison sprinkled in food might not kill anyone, either. that doesn't make it right. btw, i'm a total believer in the government faking data - they do it all the time. i'm more than happy to believe that 2nd hand smoke isn't nearly as lethal as the SG would mislead us to believe. that doesn't make 2nd hand smoke not unhealthy and it doesn't make it any less obnoxious. also from the article... In fact, researchers reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1998 that 75% of studies done between 1980 and 1995 that found no link between secondhand smoke and health problems were funded by tobacco companies. In that review, researchers examined 106 studies conducted in those 15 years; two in three indicated secondhand smoke does contribute to lung and heart disease. "While this study is flawed, there are at least 50 very reputable studies that find a link between secondhand smoke and lung cancer and at least 50 others that find an increased risk of heart disease," says Thun. Among them: Two findings from the newer Cancer Prevention Study II that began in the 1980s -- the follow-up to the study used for Enstrom's research -- that suggest nonsmokers face a 20% increased risk for both heart disease and lung cancer when exposed to secondhand smoke. "The consensus of multiple health committees from around the world, including the surgeon general, is that secondhand smoke is definitely related to lung cancer and heart disease, and may be also be related to chronic lung disease." so, the government may want to mislead us and the tobacco companies may want to mislead us. i don't trust either, so i'll continue to withhold final judgment. having said that, it is clear that 2nd hand smoke has adverse health effects of one kind or another. this may include premature death, it may not.