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To: maceng2 who wrote (22070)	7/1/2008 2:34:23 PM
From: HPilot	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36921

So where is the error here? Ignoring water vapor as a green house gas was a pretty blatant error.

To: maceng2 who wrote (22070)	7/1/2008 9:33:58 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 36921

Dear Pearly, to make the abject stupidity of those who suggest that CO2 is somehow driving global temperatures I went and read all, well many PHD who wrote about the saturation water vapor pressure of the dewpoint or dewpoint temperature. There are many empirical equations used to compute saturation water vapor pressure of the dewpoint temperature. I created a spreadsheet and input several equations. I used en.wikipedia.org to compute the saturation water vapor pressure for a range of temperatures. Then using the old pv=nrt I calculated the PPM of H20 for those saturation water vapor pressures. The Goff-Gratch equation and my oocalc implementation can be found on toms.homeip.net water vapor varies in tens of thousands of PPM and CO2 is 387. If one comprehends any science, one knows that a change of a hundred PPM is nothing relation to tens of thousands of PPM. Here is the data table and plot.

To: maceng2 who wrote (22070)	7/2/2008 11:51:56 AM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 36921

Dear pearly, thank you for this link. atmoz.org Off course the dumb consider it a link to an argument supporting the anthropogenic C02 divine consensus. But in fact is just another self appointed idiot babbling on about an abstract. But if one follows the link to the abstract provided and downloads the publication, one is provided with a fantastic tutorial on real science. Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics is a link to arxiv.org This is the abstract page for the publication held by the Cornell University Library. As a member of the Cornell University Library I welcome you to look at the Open access to 485,365 e-prints in Physics, Mathematics, Computer Science, Quantitative Biology and Statistics. Now if one wishes to truly understand the Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics. Only 114 pages of light reading. There are links on the abstract page to download PDF or Tex versions of the full article. It is a superb article. For those to dumb to figure out how to get the source form the Cornell University Library. PDF toms.homeip.net TEX toms.homeip.net and the umpacked tex and figures. toms.homeip.net