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To: Road Walker who wrote (395990)	7/3/2008 11:08:42 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574714

Iraq may not be cuttable. If indeed we have made some progress, it argues for a longer stay than if things were going as bad as they were last year. I dont think obama will move much faster than mccain in getting out of iraq. He will be meeting with petreaus in a few weeks. We all have to get over the history of our presence in iraq. Going in was stupid because of the hyped reasons, fighting it the way we did initially compounded the error BUT the surge has worked--credit obama for being right about the war initially and mccain for being right about the surge. But we are where we are and the wingers on both side are going to have to control expectations.

To: Road Walker who wrote (395990)	7/3/2008 1:12:48 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1574714

James Bond, Batman, Mission Impossible.....eat your collective hearts out. This is the coolest example of trickery I've seen in a while. Old-fashioned fake-out results in freedom for hostages BOGOTA, Colombia (CNN) -- Government agents posing as rebels tricked a gang of armed desperados into handing over 15 hostages during a rendezvous deep in Colombia's unforgiving jungle. Gen. Mario Montoya leads freed hostages across the tarmac Wednesday at the Bogota, Colombia, airport. The Colombian government's bloodless rescue of the hostages Wednesday was the product of a perfectly executed ruse that depended on old-school spy games rather than high-tech gadgetry. Agents spent months worming their way into the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, an insurgent force that has waged war on the Colombian state for 40 years, Gen. Freddy Padilla de Leon told CNN. The agents gained the rebels' trust and rose to the top of FARC's leadership council as well as a team assigned to guard the hostages. When the time was ripe, the moles used the authority they'd gained within the group to order the 15 hostages moved from three separate locations to one central area, and the game was on. Watch how the operation went down » "We convinced the FARC that they were talking to those of their own," said Gen. Mario Montoya of the Colombian army. "It was all human intelligence." Once the hostages -- including former presidential candidate Ingrid Betancourt and three American contractors -- were gathered, the agents ordered a 90-mile march through the steamy jungle, Montoya said. Such relocations were not unusual for the hostages or the rebels, who constantly move about to avoid detection by the Colombian military. Watch what the FARC is all about » Little did the rebels know that the military was about to pull off a bait-and-switch that would leave them standing in a jungle clearing, not realizing they'd just been hustled out of their most valuable assets. See former hostages, officials exult » The agents told their FARC comrades that an "international mission" -- such as the Red Cross or a U.N. delegation -- was coming to visit the hostages, Montoya said. At the appointed hour, an unmarked white helicopter set down in the jungle along the trekkers' path. Colombian security forces posing as FARC rebels jumped out, some wearing shirts emblazoned with the likeness of revolutionary icon Che Guevara. The helicopter crew told the 60 or so real rebels that the chopper was going to ferry the hostages to the meeting with the "international mission," Montoya said. During their 22 minutes on the jungle floor, the government pilot and co-pilot spoke in code with their colleagues, authorities said, using phrases such as "Generators OK" that carried a secret meaning to the security forces. All 15 hostages were handcuffed and placed aboard the helicopter, along with two of their guards, leaving the rest of the FARC detachment on the ground. Once the chopper was up and safely away from the landing zone, the fake rebels persuaded the real ones aboard to hand them their weapons. Moments later, both rebels were on the floor of the aircraft, cuffed and blindfolded by their erstwhile comrades, Betancourt said. Watch Betancourt describe her 'miracle' » cnn.com

To: Road Walker who wrote (395990)	7/3/2008 1:17:21 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574714

Oh oh......this country can't afford any more natural disasters. Tropical Storm Bertha forms in the Atlantic 1 hour ago MIAMI (AP) — Tropical Storm Bertha has formed in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Africa. At 11 a.m. EDT Thursday, the center of the storm was located about 190 miles south-southwest of the Cape Verde Islands. The second named storm of the Atlantic hurricane season is moving toward the west-northwest at about 14 mph, and forecasters expect that to continue for the next couple of days. Maximum sustained winds were near 40 mph. Some gradual strengthening is forecast during the next day or two. It's still too early to say if or where Bertha will hit land. The first named storm this year, Arthur, formed in the Atlantic the day before the season officially started June 1 and soaked the Yucatan Peninsula. ap.google.com