To: longnshort who wrote (32946 ) 7/3/2008 5:34:52 PM From: koan Respond to of 224756 Yes, it is true people are born with different intellectual capabilities, but not so much smarter or dumber. More just different. Sometimes as people develop dementia artisic qualties will come out. Or injury to the frontal lobe will create unusual intellectual abilities. Of all my friends, the best writer and most famous, who got his PHD at 21, could not get through a basic statistics course. We always guess his IQ was under 100. Good friend. My brother has dyslexia and scored very high on an IQ test (they tested him becasue they thought he was mentally retarded), but dropped out of school in the 8th grade as he could not read and was humiliated. About a year ago Scientific American had an article called :"the expert mind" . They studied chess players. What they found was that it takes 10 years to develop an expert mind. More time than to train a brain surgeon. What happens is the mind develops software we are not aware of that allows us to make better decisions quicker. Recently science has found we make our more sophisticated observations at the unconscious level. I have read many biographies of Einstein. He was unique. Some theorize he may have been the only human who actually saw the 4th diminsion. Even years after he came out with the theory of relativity no one could understand it. Finally Max Plank championed Einstein, but many feel he still didn't really get it, but just sort of knew it was correct. He never did get his nobel prise for relativity. He got it for something else which I never understood (the photo electric effect I think?)-lol. I think the best way to understand the affect of education (any kind, self education or otherwise) is to examine the thinking of some of the very primitive tribes and realize they have the same normal curve of natural intellect as anyone else. When troops got to Afghanistan they foudn a large percentage of the population did not know the world was round! One tribe in the Amazone can't count. And after a certain age seem not to be able to learn?? I didn't start my own education until quite late in life, so I have lived in both worlds, the educated and uneducated and remember how I used to see the world. I didn't see much-lol. cheers,