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To: skinowski who wrote (256978)	7/7/2008 12:30:33 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 794156

We are in the process of learning some of those Virtuous Victorian Values now. Plenty of people are getting the lesson, good and hard: <>I was talking straight down to earth practicalities and realities. Any strongly collectivist political system will inevitably come into conflict with individual rights, and will end up oppressing them. Communism is a lousy idea in any of its incarnations. If people didn't learn from history, they will learn - maybe - after yet another period of quasi-scientific collectivist regimes... and that education will once again cost a lot of suffering> Perhaps if we use the expression collectivism instead of communism, which people seem to think means Pol Pot, Mao or Stalin, we'll see what's going on. Have a look at the trends in the USA, Europe and NZ as a few examples. They are all heavily socialist these days, though the USA is less so in many respects, though NZ is more free than the USA. Ooopps, that has been revised. NZ has slid in a year or so from number 2 after Hong Kong to also-ran just after USA. heritage.org If NZ and USA are "free" I wouldn't want to experience too much of the rest. But we have an election coming up and the socialist, regulatory, dominatrix Labour Party of Helen of Helengrad is going to get their comeuppance. So, hopefully, things will stop declining so fast [though $100bn in debt has to be repaid with no visible means of doing so]. Mqurice