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To: neolib who wrote (22131)	7/11/2008 2:06:08 PM
From: HPilot	Respond to of 36917

the sun is generally treated as a black body No I am pretty sure its adjusted for its brightness.

To: neolib who wrote (22131)	7/11/2008 7:33:52 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

You stupidity in not seeing the full truth in my observations is noted as your normal samo samo lamo. I do not suggest you read Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics It is simply several miles over you head.... Gerhard Gerlich Institut fur Mathematische Physik Technische Universitat Carolo-Wilhelmina Mendelssohnstraße 3 D-38106 Braunschweig Federal Republic of Germany g.gerlich@tu-bs.de Ralf D. Tscheuschner Postfach 60 27 62 D-22237 Hamburg arXiv:0707.1161v3 [physics.ao-ph] 11 Sep 2007 Federal Republic of Germany ralfd@na-net.ornl.gov Links to the original source of this document in PDF and Tex format is located at The Cornell University Library. arxiv.org Abstract The atmospheric greenhouse effect, an idea that authors trace back to the traditional works of Fourier 1824, Tyndall 1861, and Arrhenius 1896, and which is still supported in global climatology, essentially describes a fictitious mechanism, in which a planetary atmosphere acts as a heat pump driven by an environment that is radiatively interacting with but radiatively equilibrated to the atmospheric system. According to the second law of thermodynamics such a planetary machine can never exist. Nevertheless, in almost all texts of global climatology and in a widespread secondary literature it is taken for granted that such mechanism is real and stands on a firm scientific foundation. In this paper the popular conjecture is analyzed and the underlying physical principles are clarified. By showing that (a) there are no common physical laws between the warming phenomenon in glass houses and the fictitious atmospheric greenhouse effects, (b) there are no calculations to determine an average surface temperature of a planet, (c) the frequently mentioned difference of 33 C is a meaningless number calculated wrongly, (d) the formulas of cavity radiation are used inappropriately, (e) the assumption of a radiative balance is unphysical, (f) thermal conductivity and friction must not be set to zero, the atmospheric greenhouse conjecture is falsified. Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects . . . 3 Contents Abstract 2 1 Introduction 6 1.1 Problem background 6 1.2 The greenhouse effect hypothesis 11 1.3 This paper 14 2 The warming mechanism in real greenhouses 16 2.1 Radiation Basics 16 2.1.1 Introduction 16 2.1.2 The infinitesimal specific intensity 16 2.1.3 Integration 18 2.1.4 The Stefan-Boltzmann law 19 2.1.5 Conclusion 20 2.2 The Sun as a black body radiator 21 2.3 The radiation on a very nice day 23 2.3.1 The phenomenon 23 2.3.2 The sunshine 23 2.3.3 The radiation of the ground 25 2.3.4 Sunshine versus ground radiation 27 2.3.5 Conclusion 29 2.4 High School Experiments 29 2.5 Experiment by Wood 32 2.6 Glass house summary 34 3 The fictitious atmospheric greenhouse effects 35 3.1 Problem definition 35 3.2 Scientific error versus scientific fraud 35 3.3 Different versions of the atmospheric greenhouse conjecture 38 3.3.1 Atmospheric greenhouse effect after Moller (1973) 38 3.3.2 Atmospheric greenhouse effect after Meyer's encyclopedia (1974) 38 3.3.3 Atmospheric greenhouse effect after Schonwiese (1987) 38 3.3.4 Atmospheric greenhouse effect after Stichel (1995) 39 3.3.5 Atmospheric greenhouse effect after Anonymous 1 (1995) 39 3.3.6 Atmospheric greenhouse effect after Anonymous 2 (1995) 40 3.3.7 Atmospheric greenhouse effect after Anonymous 3 (1995) 40 3.3.8 Atmospheric greenhouse effect after German Meteorological Society (1995) 40 4 Gerhard Gerlich and Ralf D. Tscheuschner 3.3.9 Atmospheric greenhouse effect after Graßl (1996) 41 3.3.10 Atmospheric greenhouse effect after Ahrens (2001) 41 3.3.11 Atmospheric greenhouse effect after Dictionary of Geophysics, Astrophysics, and Astronomy (2001) 42 3.3.12 Atmospheric greenhouse effect after Encyclopaedia of Astronomy and Astrophysics (2001) 42 3.3.13< Atmospheric greenhouse effect after Encyclopaedia Britannica Online (2007) 43 3.3.14< Atmospheric greenhouse effect after Rahmstorf (2007) 43 3.3.15 Conclusion 44 3.4 The conclusion of the US Department of Energy 44 3.5 Absorption/Emission is not Reflection 45 3.5.1 An inconvenient popularization of physics 45 3.5.2 Reflection 47 3.5.3 Absorption and Emission 48 3.5.4 Re-emission 48 3.5.5 Two approaches of Radiative Transfer 49 3.6 The hypotheses of Fourier, Tyndall, and Arrhenius 51 3.6.1 The traditional works 51 3.6.2 Modern works of climatology 57 3.7 The assumption of radiative balance 58 3.7.1 Introduction 58 3.7.2 A note on "radiation balance" diagrams 58 3.7.3 The case of purely radiative balance 60 3.7.4 The average temperature of a radiation-exposed globe 62 3.7.5 Non-existence of the natural greenhouse effect 64 3.7.6 A numerical example 65 3.7.7 Non-existence of a global temperature 66 3.7.8 The rotating globe 67 3.7.9 The obliquely rotating globe 68 3.7.10 The radiating bulk 69 3.7.11 The comprehensive work of Schack 70 3.8 Thermal conductivity versus radiative transfer 72 3.8.1 The heat equation 72 3.8.2 Heat transfer across and near interfaces 74 3.8.3 In the kitchen: Physics-obsessed housewife versus IPCC 74 3.9 The laws of thermodynamics 75 3.9.1 Introduction 75 Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects 5 3.9.2 Diagrams 76 3.9.3 A paradox 77 3.9.4 Possible resolution of the paradox 78 4 Physical Foundations of Climate Science 80 4.1 Introduction 80 4.2 The conservation laws of magnetohydrodynamics 81 4.2.1 Overview 81 4.2.2 Electric charge conservation 82 4.2.3 Mass conservation 82 4.2.4 Maxwell's equations 82 4.2.5 Ohm's law for moving media 83 4.2.6 Momentum balance equation 83 4.2.7 Total energy balance equation 83 4.2.8 Poynting's theorem 83 4.2.9 Consequences of the conservation laws 84 4.2.10 General heat equation 84 4.2.11 Discussion 85 4.3 Science and Global Climate Modelling 86 4.3.1 Science and the Problem of Demarcation 86 4.3.2 Evaluation of Climatology and Climate Modelling 89 4.3.3 Conclusion 90 5 Physicist's Summary 92