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To: Andrew N. Cothran who wrote (258029)	7/16/2008 1:40:53 PM
From: Oral Roberts	Respond to of 793955

Sadly for Obama, and this is just my opinion but the most bigoted folks in this country call themselves Democrats. I think your thesis is spot on. I think we will have a black President one day but he/she will be a Republican for this reason.

To: Andrew N. Cothran who wrote (258029)	7/16/2008 1:41:21 PM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

I think that Race will be the defining issue. I disagree. I think race is an ancillary issue and will be exploited only by people like Jesse Jackson. No matter what race, if a candidate is an AMERICAN above all else, then his or her ideas define the race. Some candidates will be unable to rise to the challenge, so in that regard race will be an issue. Jesse Jackson would be such a candidate. Obama is not. He fails for lack of substance, not race. But for the American people, I think we have gone beyond race into the realm of ideas and principles, where politics really belongs anyway.

To: Andrew N. Cothran who wrote (258029)	7/16/2008 2:28:04 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

Maybe. I understand what you're talking about. Its a question of how much change in people's mindset has occurred. I know a few people that are flatout racist and haven't changed and never will. Though the people I know like that are mostly older than me. And most of the people like that I've known are probably in the ground now. The last time I ran into one of those fellows he whispered to someone beside me the kind of thing he used to say out loud. What about people younger than you and me and him? The ones I know are our kids and their friends and my younger coworkers. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but it feels like attitudes are different by and large from the old days. I may be wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------- One votes his deepest fears and most hidden prejudices. And The Reverend Wright's famous "God damn America", not to mention Michelle's "For the first time in my life. . ."aberration are two images that are now stamped indelibly on the hidden and subconscious levers of the typical white voter's minds that will guide their hand Remembering (especially) Wright's and Michelle's and Pfleger's statements will hurt Obama. And should. I don't think prejudice has a thing to do with that. Obama chose to buddy up to anti-American race hustlers and it is fair to take that into account as to both his judgment and what may be in his heart.