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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: neolib who wrote (22303)7/19/2008 1:24:20 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Respond to of 36917
 
hey liarboy neolib, you are so stupid, you cannot connect the dots or construct any coherent understanding of even the simplest laws of physics. You chase you tail because you are so stupid and dishonest. Clearly my posts state, proclaim fully that 2'nd Law of Thermodynamics is stated explained and interpreted correctly by Prof. Dr. GERHARD GERLICH (l) und Dr. RALF D. TSCHEUSCHNER in Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics tsch.de
You posts liarboy neolib have already proven this is order of magnitude over you head.
So once again liarboy neolib how is my idea of the 2'nd Law of Thermodynamics mis-understood or mis-stated or mis-interpreted. Oh G and T make it so easy to expose the lazy liar.... html indexing... LOL... Section 3.9
tsch.de
3.9 The laws of thermodynamics
3.9.1 Introduction
3.9.2 Diagrams
3.9.3 A paradox



To: neolib who wrote (22303)7/19/2008 1:35:49 PM
From: maceng2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36917
 
OK, OK, sooooooooo, what about the "Anti-greenhouse" effect
then?

It exists on Titan, so there ! -g- but the effect on Pluto is, well... a falsification!

edit/ and nooooo, it's not a greenhouse made of anti matter either -g-

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The anti-greenhouse effect is a neologism used to describe two different effects, coming under the header of "the cooling effect an atmosphere has on the ambient temperature of the planet." Unlike the greenhouse effect, which is common, an anti-greenhouse effect is only known to exist in one situation in the Solar System, as well as another which is a misnomer.

The conventional greenhouse effect occurs because the atmosphere is largely transparent to solar radiation, but largely opaque to infrared. In an anti-greenhouse effect, this situation is reversed (i.e. the atmosphere is opaque to solar, but lets out infrared).

Titan

The haze containing organic molecules in Titan's upper atmosphere absorb 90% of the solar radiation reaching Titan, but is inefficient at trapping infrared radiation generated by the surface, thus keeping the surface approximately 10°C (20°F) cooler than would otherwise be expected [1]. In addition, this effect results in a permanently inverted thermocline on Titan with atmospheric temperatures increasing with increasing altitude above the surface. This type of anti-greenhouse effect is only known to occur on Titan, however it is similar to the cooling effects suggested for nuclear winter.

Pluto
A different mechanism exists on Pluto, which is not a true anti-greenhouse effect. Sunlight striking the nitrogen ice on the surface of dwarf planet Pluto causes it to sublimate; this causes the temperature of Pluto to be about 10°C (20°F) lower than its moon Charon[2]. The sublimation causes cooling, and is analogous to solar radiation evaporating water on Earth; however when this occurs on Earth it is not called an anti-greenhouse effect. This effect was discovered using the Submillimeter Array in Hawaii.

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