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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (22372)	7/20/2008 1:19:28 AM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

boy you are stupid liarboy. there are different film compositions, They restrict the percentage of light getting into the car by both partial reflection and some adsorption. you donot believe that if some of the sunlight is reflected back then the heating inside will be slower. Clearly that is stupidity of the first and second order. Could you just clearly state that you believe your claim of a much longer time to reach thermal equilibrium for the interior of the car with a film coated window vs the non-coated one is correct and you stake your reputation on this, and that further if you are proved incorrect in this, you will admit that your understanding of climate science in general might also have serious flaws? After all, above you claim that my view that the time constants are essentially identical is "clearly stupidity of the first and second order". So please go on record and stake your reputation on this.

To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (22372)	7/20/2008 1:30:54 AM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

you donot believe that if some of the sunlight is reflected back then the heating inside will be slower. Clearly that is stupidity of the first and second order. Indeed I do not believe that reflecting back some of the sunlight will slow the heating of the inside. What it will do is drop the equilibrium temperature of the inside. Any idiot knows that. The time constant of the rise remains identical. Which is why I told you to consider a basic 2'nd order system. What do you think the rise time of a 2'nd order system does in response to a step function of magnitude X vs one of magnitude 2X? Is it the same or different? What is the magnitude of the steady state output? What is the magnitude of the maximum rate of change of the system output in response to these two inputs? Assume a damped 2'nd order system (make it critically damped for the heck of it) without a pole at the origin. When you can answer those questions, you will understand things.