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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (35556)	7/20/2008 8:45:24 AM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224706

Patricia, you are way late with that message. We should have heard that in 2000 and 2004 when we elected the real "empty suit" - the guy who called himself "a uniter, not a divider".

To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (35556)	7/20/2008 4:01:37 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224706

Joe Lieberman made that same point today on Fox News Sunday, when he said McCain advocated the surge even though the Bush Adm and public were strongly opposed...John persevered in his promotion of the surge despite the fact his campaign suffered as a consequence. Lieberman then said McCain stated to him at the time "I'd rather lose an election and do what's right for America." Joe added that Sen Obama was ready for the US to lose in Iraq in order that he would get elected. He said therein lies the core difference between both candidates. McCain places country first, while Obama considers his personal benefit to be the most important consideration. >We are at a time when we need substance in a leader<