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To: combjelly who wrote (400920)	7/23/2008 10:35:47 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578141

And now McCain has the unenviable task of trying to convince people that he really hasn't changed his stance but that Obama has somehow moved in his direction... Actually, if you get away from your liberalism for a moment, and try to put yourself in the shoes of the typical likely voter, I think there could be another explanation. I believe that most people realize that the most important single decision Obama has made is whether to support the troop surge. And as it turned out, McCain is exactly right -- the troop surge turned what had already been declared a loss by the Left into a win. And without it, Obama could not even have MADE his trip to Iraq. Obama has a huge risk of being over-exposed here -- because the liberal media is so in love with the Obama candidacy, they are just about to make everyone sick. At some point, it may be that the voters decide they don't want the liberal media electing the next president, and want to make the call themselves. There is precedent for this; we've seen the media go gaga over candidates before, only to have their candidate lose (2000 is one example). By the time the media gets through with the Obama convention, people may be just about ready to puke when they hear the name.

To: combjelly who wrote (400920)	7/23/2008 12:38:01 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578141

McCain had a lot riding on the fact that Obama hadn't been to Iraq recently and didn't really understand what was going on. He was gambling that either Obama would not go and keep his focus on campaigning or he would go and humiliate himself. The humiliation would be one of two ways. Either he would get there and publicly admit he was wrong or he would not change his stance and appear to be inflexible. He didn't bank on the well-known fact that reality has a liberal bias. What really happened was he got there and Maliki validated Obama's stance. Despite the desperate spin of the White House that Maliki was mis-translated, was mis-quoted and even that he doesn't know what he is talking about, McCain has been forced to change his position to Obama's to keep from appearing to be totally out of the loop. He also believed that the snot nosed, buttoned down college boy would shrink and cower when faced with dirty Iraqis with bombs and hard nosed military folk. Considering this was his signature issue, the collapse is a pretty significant blow. So far, all McCain has been able to do is whine about the media, the very same group he has in the past called his base. At the moment, that is all he has as he tries to pick up the pieces and craft a new approach. But, that is what happens when you put all of your eggs in one basket and it turns out that it was really your opponents basket the whole time... He also has made a quote that may be the defining moment in this campaign when he said: "I am someone willing to lose a political campaign in order to win a war. Obama is someone who is willing to lose a war in order to win a political campaign." Ouch! Can someone say bitch? Frankly, I don't think that comment came anywhere close to being presidential. I don't think its even good enough for a senator. I would not be surprised if McCain loses his re election bid in AZ whenever that is.