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To: Lane3 who wrote (76187)	7/24/2008 11:24:45 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543317

<<<I think it's obvious that there probably ISN'T one.>>> Take for example how an Engineer, a Physicist, and Mathematician see the world: There is a room, a small fire, and a fire extinguisher. The Engineer uses the fire extinguisher to put out the fire. He doesn't necessarily need to explain the process. The Physicist goes to great length to define the fire and the fire extinguisher. He explains in scientific detail the process that takes place when the fire extingusher is used properly to put out the fire. But, he doesn't actually put out the fire. That is some ne elses job. The Mathematician will look at the problem and feel the problem is trivial. All he cares about is that the solution exists. The health care problem is similar in that, of course the solution exists. It is just a matter of applying resources to solve a problem. The only problem right now is that the resources are limited. Given that the resources are limited, all we have to do is find out how much we have to apply to the problem and then to decide the most good that can be accomplished with the limited resources. The solution then will be comparable to Triage and who we allow to set the priorities and make those decisions. Not every one will be happy. To do nothing makes no sense. To leave it up to fate or some invisible magic does not make any sense. To allow people to individually fight it out for resources does not make any sense.

To: Lane3 who wrote (76187)	7/24/2008 3:14:15 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 543317

Karen - I don't think there's a solution to our high medical costs if we only look at the insurance side of the equation. The excess costs are spread throughout the medical system, because almost every single part of it is designed to generate a profit. Every paper towel, every syringe, every IV tube, and every drug has been produced, sold at wholesale, redistributed, and resold to the medical providers, with profit taken at every step. I think the only real solution is going to be some kind of socialized medical system, probably supplemented by private practitioners that people can go to if they wish to pay extra. Dans le modele Francais. - Allen