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To: TimF who wrote (76218)	7/24/2008 2:30:53 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543258

It depends on how you frame the problem. ED is a disorder, female fertility is not. You could also frame is as an economic question. Offer Viagra and you save no medical costs. You might incur additional ones such as heart attacks or STDs. Offer birth control and you can save on future medical costs.

To: TimF who wrote (76218)	7/24/2008 2:31:49 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543258

Of course female infertility is a disability. We are designed to reproduce- if you cannot do that, you have a disability just the same as if you cannot get your johnson up, or if you are shooting blanks out of your johnson. There's a problem if your equipment doesn't work as intended. Obviously not everyone cares, which is fine, but if the equipment doesn't work and you care, the disability ought to be treated.

To: TimF who wrote (76218)	7/24/2008 2:44:21 PM
From: biotech_bull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543258

ED is a disorder, female fertility is not Agree with that. But the real point is that the goal of viagra is not reproduction but recreational sex.If recreational sex for men is covered, it is discriminatory not to cover it to women.

To: TimF who wrote (76218)	7/24/2008 4:25:03 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543258

While I understand what you are saying technically, I have to admit that it grates on me and I think I am being logical, but maybe not :). Erectile dysfunction is caused by a multitude of conditions, some of which are a matter of personal choice (obesity, smoking, drinking), but I wonder how often these are addressed before prescribing viagra. ANd I will bravely ask why not being able to perform is considered a serious disability. Just as I am not sure infertility is either. They are unfortunate things, but is that the purpose of health insurance? Do we fix only those things that are truly about health, or do we include attempts to make everything perfect in our lives. I am not really taking a stand- I don't know what I conclude about this- As for birth control, repeated pregnancy can certainly create health problems, and unwanted pregnancies create a host of societal problems. When I hit menopause, I was unable to take full strength hormone replacement, and we found that the most effective was the level found in regular birth control. It wasn't covered, despite the circumstances. It was about that time I saw all these smiling men on tv getting their viagra and thought - well, Damn- something wrong with this picture.