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To: ManyMoose who wrote (76655)	7/26/2008 4:12:35 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 543078

I don't know what you're talking about. Women have choice. Universities use affirmative action. Schools are desegregated. Gays and lesbians have the same rights as everybody else. My apologies. I thought you knew the political history of the last four decades. A refresher, then. Major planks in the right wing platform: 1. reverse Roe v Wade and, among some, put in place a constitutional amendment forbidding women the right to choose. 2. Reverse all efforts at affirmative action. I focused on universities and colleges since I know something about it. But one could make the claim more generally. 3. Oppose efforts to give gays and lesbians equal rights with heteros. If you fail to acknowledge this, then you have simply missed the last four decades. If you wish to reinterpret them, fine, let's discuss it. As for the misinterpretation of the second amendment, I simply threw that in. The thread has debated it. In my own view, it's crystal clear that it was meant to offer a compromise to states who wished to keep their militias intact and were fearful of a newly created central government. No founder was worried about something called an individual right of gun ownership. If Scalia had even the slightest consistency of interpretation, he would jump to that one given his originalism arguments. His position is yet one more clear illustration that originalism for him is yet one more way to cloak his own preferences in some sort of false historical sanctity.

To: ManyMoose who wrote (76655)	7/27/2008 7:47:36 AM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543078

>>Gays and lesbians have the same rights as everybody else. << MM - Really? Can they marry each other in all 50 states? - Allen