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To: Cogito who wrote (76856)	7/27/2008 5:12:10 PM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543124

This question is now moot, as I have withdrawn my objection to gay/lesbian marriage. It's none of my business.

To: Cogito who wrote (76856)	7/27/2008 10:59:53 PM
From: Bridge Player	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543124

I am assuming from your posts that you are in favor of legally allowing homosexual marriage. If that is not the case, please correct me. Here are 4 statements from Obama about his beliefs with respect to homosexual marriage. =============================================================================== 1. Here is Obama in an interview with the Chicago Daily Tribune [Sorry; I don't have the date of that interview]. Although Barack Obama has said that he supports civil unions, he is against gay marriage. In an interview with the Chicago Daily Tribune, Obama said, "I'm a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman." He said he would support civil unions between gay and lesbian couples, as well as letting individual states determine if marriage between gay and lesbian couples should be legalized. "Giving them a set of basic rights would allow them to experience their relationship and live their lives in a way that doesn't cause discrimination," Obama said. "I think it is the right balance to strike in this society." Source: my.barackobama.com =============================================================================== 2. Here is Obama on the floor of the U.S. Senate, June 5, 2006, during a debate on the Federal Marriage Amendment. ........ ........ Now, I realize that for some Americans, this is an important issue. And I should say that personally, I do believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. ........ ........ I agree with most Americans, with Democrats and Republicans, with Vice President Cheney, with over 2,000 religious leaders of all different beliefs, that decisions about marriage, as they always have, should be left to the states. ........ ........ The rest of his speech, to provide context for anyone who believes that it is important, is available here: my.barackobama.com ============================================================================== 3. Here is Obama in an address to a gay and lesbian group during a fund-raiser in late March 2008, during the primary campaign. According to several sources, including Johnson and Lenore, Obama said he did not think it was “politically feasible” to secure marriage rights for same-sex couples in the country at this point. Sen. Obama acknowledged that the community wanted full marriage rights but said that he favored civil unions for now while leaving open the possibility that his position might evolve in the future. Source: advocate.com ============================================================================== 4. Here is Obama on the California ballot issue that would ban same-sex marriage. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, who previously said the issue of gay marriage should be left up to each state, has announced his opposition to a California ballot measure that would ban same-sex marriages. In a letter to the Alice B. Toklas LGBT Democratic Club read Sunday at the group's annual Pride Breakfast in San Francisco, the Illinois senator said he supports extending "fully equal rights and benefits to same-sex couples under both state and federal law." "And that is why I oppose the divisive and discriminatory efforts to amend the California Constitution, and similar efforts to amend the U.S. Constitution or those of other states," Obama wrote. Source: sacbee.com ============================================================================== What do you believe to be Obama's personal beliefs about homosexual marriage, and whether it should be legalized? If the issue were to be decided on a state-by-state basis, do you believe that it should be decided by ....the State Legislature? ....the voters in the state? ....the State Supreme Court? If he were to repeat, and stick with, his earlier statement that "marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman", would you say that you disagree with him on that issue? What do you believe that Obama's views on homosexual marriage would be if and when he became elected president?