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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (36845)7/29/2008 4:28:28 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Respond to of 224759
 
kennywhiner: Crude Oil Closes At Multi-Month Low

Crude oil prices plunged again on Tuesday and reached a 12-week low. Light sweet crude for September delivery closed at $122.19, down $2.54 on the session. Prices moved as low as $120.42, oil's lowest mark since early May. The September contract fell below its 50-day moving average with Tuesday's...



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (36845)7/29/2008 4:33:17 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 224759
 
We can't solar our way out . all the new solar my give us 2% more power in 20 years but the increase in power needs will over run that. Same with wind power. So what's the use.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (36845)7/29/2008 4:53:10 PM
From: Geoff Altman  Respond to of 224759
 
Good lord give me patience.... Again, even if it doesn't affect the price of oil (which I doubt) THIS IS ABOUT GETTING OFF MIDDLE EAST OIL AND REDUCING THE PRICE AT THE PUMP!!!



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (36845)7/29/2008 5:50:21 PM
From: puborectalis  Respond to of 224759
 
Offshore leases ended
Published 12:00 am PDT Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has rejected calls to lift the moratorium on new offshore oil drilling. As if to prove his point, a state commission Tuesday terminated three offshore oil and gas leases held by Chevron Corp. off the coast of Santa Barbara County.

The decision won't affect energy supplies. Chevron Corp. hadn't found any oil at the site and offered to surrender the leases in April, said Paul Thayer, executive officer of the State Lands Commission.

By accepting Chevron's offer, the commission puts the 11,000-acre site permanently off limits to exploration or production, Thayer said. The site will become part of the state's marine sanctuary.

The state hasn't issued any new leases since the 1969 Santa Barbara oil spill.

Meanwhile, the state Department of Conservation reported that drilling activity has increased throughout California's oil fields, as investors react to higher prices. The number of productive wells increased about 2 percent.

But the volume of production continues to decline, as it has since it peaked in 1985. Production fell 2.3 percent last year, to 243.2 million barrels, the lowest level since 1941. Experts say California's oil fields are so old that decline is inevitable.

– Dale Kasler



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (36845)7/29/2008 5:52:02 PM
From: puborectalis  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224759
 
Most offshore leases producing no oil, gas
By JASON EMBRY, ASHER PRICE

Tuesday, July 08, 2008

WASHINGTON — Drilling for oil off the coast of Texas has inflicted relatively little harm on the environment in recent years, state officials say. But it has also shown that expanded drilling won't be a quick fix for an oil supply that is far outpaced by domestic and global demand.

Of about 1,800 leases, or areas that producers have obtained from the government to seek oil, off the coast of Texas, 273 are producing oil and gas, according to the U.S. Minerals Management Service.

Those numbers and others have led congressional Democrats to charge that oil producers aren't taking advantage of existing resources. But the oil industry and its defenders say non-producing leases are common because areas that appear to have oil often don't, and that even if they do, preparing to drill can take several years.

And while there is debate over the environmental impact of offshore drilling, government officials in Texas say it's as clean as it has been in decades.

Such drilling jumped to the front of the debate over oil and gas prices last month when Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, said he wanted to lift a 27-year moratorium on drilling off of much of the country's coast in an effort to increase U.S. oil supplies. Lifting the moratorium would not directly affect the Texas coast because drilling is already allowed there.

In the race for a Texas seat in the U.S. Senate, both Republican incumbent John Cornyn and Democratic challenger Rick Noriega support lifting the moratorium and allowing states to decide whether to permit drilling.

Sen. Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee for president, says oil companies should get more from the leases that are already available to them, and congressional Democrats largely agree. House Democrats tried last week to strip oil companies of the leases they are not using, but fell short of the two-thirds vote they needed.

According to a recent report by the Democratic staff of the House Natural Resources Committee, just 10.5 million of the 44 million offshore acres that have been leased out to oil and gas companies are currently producing oil and gas.

"The oil industry needs to drill what they have now, drill in those areas available to them, and then we will talk about giving them dessert," said Committee Chairman Nick Rahall, D-W.V.

Democrats also point to recent comments from the administrator of the federal Energy Information Agency, Guy Caruso, whom Reuters quoted as saying lifting the offshore moratorium would have a "relatively small" effect on gas prices.

But officials with the American Petroleum Institute, which represents the oil and gas industry, say those who talk about idle leases underestimate how long it takes to produce oil from an offshore site. It's not that oil companies aren't using the leases, they say, but it can take years before they start extracting oil because they first have to obtain permits, conduct environmental and engineering studies and build platforms for drilling. Also, they don't know whether an area will contain oil until they drill there.

"They've paid millions of dollars up front for the rights to explore these leases, and if they find any oil, they're going to want to get it out of the ground to recoup that investment," said Andy Radford, a policy adviser with the institute.

Offshore drilling has taken place in Texas waters since at least the 1940s, according to Sandra Mourton, the executive director of the nonprofit Offshore Energy Center.

But for decades, the state has grappled with how to keep the Gulf clean.

The state's General Land Office recorded at least 733 oil spills in 2007, resulting in 2,185 barrels of oil spilled in Texas coastal waters. Only two of the spills amounted to more than 100 barrels.

Many of the spills had little to do with the offshore rigs, which typically pump to shore by pipe, according to Mourton.

And, in any case, some animal welfare groups and biologists say the 2007 spill numbers are not alarming.

If one were to take all the threats posed to wildlife along the Gulf, such as habitat destruction, oil pollution would "rank at the lower end of the scale," says Andy Tirpak, a pollution biologist in the Houston area for the state parks and wildlife department.

He said practices and standards are better than they were decades ago, automated safety redundancies have been built into the system to avoid spills, and drilling is done farther offshore than it once was.

Spilled oil can kill birds by coating their feathers and destroying their ability to control their body temperature. But there has not been a notable "oiling" of birds on the Texas portion of the Gulf Coast in at least two years, said Susan Schmalz , the executive director of Houston-based Wildlife Rehab and Education. That incident, in the Corpus Christi area, affected only a handful of birds.

Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson, who oversees the General Land Office, insists that oil exploration and transportation do not present the environmental threats they did decades ago.

"If you spent time on the beach you used to have to clean tarballs off your feet when you went to the car," Patterson said. "That's not the case anymore."

He credited new technology, like directional drilling and three-dimensional seismic imaging, with cutting down the amount of oil spilled. Patterson said the main challenge for Texas is making sure enough equipment is available for the construction and operation of rigs, should the moratorium be lifted.

But environmental mishaps related to offshore drilling continue to crop up. In December 2006, at least 21,000 gallons of crude oil spilled into the Gulf of Mexico about 30 miles off the shore of Galveston. The oil was leaking from a pipeline that went from an offshore rig to land.

"Were seeing a new kind of accident that's caused by — rather than prevented by — new technology," said Richard Charter, a government relations consultant for Washington D.C.-based Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund.

He cited spills from 2004 and 2005 on oil platforms in California and Canada.

"The common thread is that when computerized technology fails, you have no human eyes watching over that computer, and accidental spills have a longer duration because no one catches them."



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (36845)7/29/2008 7:08:11 PM
From: tonto  Respond to of 224759
 
Kenneth, that is a stupid response, even for you! Your lack of market dynamics should preclude you from posting.have you thought about why mccain is leading in the gallup?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (36845)7/29/2008 7:14:39 PM
From: Shoot1st  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224759
 
I don't care if the price goes up. I can't stand the thoughts of my money going to the middle east or any other part of the world for that matter. I'd rather employ USA citizens and give them a better life with my money. 2% or 92%...doesn't matter.

TH



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (36845)7/29/2008 8:26:34 PM
From: Ann Corrigan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224759
 
You heard T.Boone Pickens say that, however he also testified before congress that we should drill offshore PLUS every other method possible to acquire more oil. Libs are johnny one notes...they hear a jingle like "we can't drill our way out of it" and repeat it ad nauseum like parrots.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (36845)7/29/2008 9:07:20 PM
From: TideGlider  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224759
 
You are an idiot Kenneth. Whenever and the oil people say 2 to 3 years the oil would be available it will certainly be welcome. You aren't going to switch the need for oil and gas to alternatives that quickly. In fact that will take many years.

So what is the argument for not drilling? The government doesn't pay for it, the oil companies do. So what is the democrat bitch? That was rhetorical because I am sure you don't know the real reasons.

They want no talk of big time drilling before the election. Oil prices would cave in as the further out contract fall, likewise do the shorter term.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (36845)3/16/2015 3:53:28 PM
From: TideGlider1 Recommendation

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Really Kenneth? This was just another example of your lack of knowledge and quacking in line with the ridiculous Democrat line of propaganda.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (36845)3/16/2015 5:28:35 PM
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  Respond to of 224759
 
We can't drill our way out of the problem. All of the new drilling off the coast might reduce the world price of oil by 2% in the next 20 years.

Don't you just love it?