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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (37135)	7/31/2008 10:42:13 AM
From: Ann Corrigan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224729

No Dem from No of Mason-Dixon line has been elected since 1960. It Ain't Over Yet-McCain Better Than Even Money By Steven Stark, The Boston Phoenix, July 31 2008 Obama may indeed end up the comfortable winner in November. But right now, there are a number of factors that still make John McCain at least even money - and by my current calculations, slightly better - to emerge victorious on Election Day. It's true that Obama has a powerful tail wind, thanks to the nation's desire for change, and he is the most eloquent nominee since Ronald Reagan, with star power to boot. He also will be able to outspend the GOP decisively. But Obama's head winds are just as strong. To win, he will literally have to rewrite history. Some of the hurdles he'll have to overcome, as I've observed previously, include: • No Democrat who hails from north of the Mason-Dixon line has been elected since 1960. • No candidate in the modern primary era has ever been elected in November after failing to win more than one of the nation's seven largest states in either its pre-convention primary or, if the state didn't hold a primary, its caucuses. • No candidate in modern times has ever been elected president with a voting record that could be identified as his party's most liberal or conservative, yet in 2007 Obama was designated as the former (by the National Journal). • No candidate arguably since Abraham Lincoln has been elected president with as little political experience as Obama. None of this is to say that Obama can't overcome these historical obstacles, and he has exceeded expectations before. But as any lawyer knows, try to defy too many precedents and the odds begin to run against you. Moreover, McCain has some cards to play, even if he has not played them yet. The press seems to be under the assumption that, because it knows so much about McCain, the electorate does too. The hunch here is that, while the outlines may be familiar to voters, the details are not. Few voters are intimately familiar with the specifics of McCain's war heroism; or the fact that he and his wife adopted a little girl from one of Mother Teresa's orphanages, in Bangladesh; or the personal kindness he has displayed to colleagues like Democrat Morris Udall, who McCain visited regularly while Udall was dying. By November, they will. In addition, for better or worse, the attacks against Obama haven't really begun. There will be a raft of negative ads - and more, such as attacks from right-wing talk radio - likely featuring Obama's own words, in his own voice (taken from the audio version of Obama's book Dreams From My Father). We likely haven't heard the last of Reverend Wright, nor the last of his wife, Michelle, either. Fear factors Plus, consider the polls. Obama currently has a narrow lead, but in 1976 and 1988, Jimmy Carter and Michael Dukakis had much larger ones, only to see them diminish (or disappear) as November approached and voters weighed their fear of the unknown against their fear of the known. Even in 2004, right before the conventions, John Kerry had a small lead over George Bush. As for the comparisons of McCain to Bob Dole in 1996, they're inapposite: by mid summer, Dole already trailed Bill Clinton by double digits - hardly the position McCain is in now. Remember, too, that, in the primaries, Obama tended to run a little behind what the pre-election polls predicted. If that pattern continues into the fall, he'll need to lead McCain by about three to four points to be assured of prevailing on Election Day. Sure, Obama is garnering all the favorable attention now. But McCain will have a number of opportunities - with the selection of his vice-presidential choice, his convention, the debates, and the fall campaign itself - to alter perceptions of both himself and Obama. This is an extremely fluid campaign and both sides have yet to play their hand. Let's see what happens when all the cards are on the table. Boston Phoenix

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (37135)	7/31/2008 10:44:10 AM
From: Ruffian	Respond to of 224729

As long as fanatical Muslims are around so will AQ...........is what it is dude.........

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (37135)	7/31/2008 11:56:17 AM
From: Ann Corrigan	Respond to of 224729

alQaeda is minus large numbers killed by the US military in Iraq.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (37135)	7/31/2008 11:59:37 AM
From: lorne	Respond to of 224729

....."The strategy didn't work. al-Qaeda is still in Pakistan and Afghanistan in increased numbers.".... Sure it worked thousands of radical al kida moslums are dead. What do you mean " Still " in pakistan? It's a radical moslum nation where do you think they would be and if numbers of radicals are increasing it would be due to moslum schools teaching the koran and hatred to kids as they have been doing for years...lots of these kids are now graduating to full fledged crazies...they had no choice. The war against these nutters will continue no matter who is next president...course it could be a more peaceful war if hussein obama wins.... he will negotiate with the crazies and tell them how much America cares for them..and they could win without conventional type war. The moslum crazies will be around for a long long time and there is only 2 choices...we win or they win... its not who is right in war it's who is left.