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To: SilentZ who wrote (403829)8/2/2008 6:21:33 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573927
 
"No, he agreed to negotiate. There's a difference."

Real men don't negotiate or compromise. Anything less than insisting on getting your way on everything is caving...



To: SilentZ who wrote (403829)8/2/2008 6:42:05 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 1573927
 
He waited till it was too late to negotiate. So his change in policy was designed to impress voters not to actually work out a compromise.

Notice he waited till Congress was ready to go home before he came out as willing to compromise on drilling. Why didn't he do that a few days earlier when Pelosi and Reid were manning the NO DRILLING barricades? Maybe he could have had a real impact. Changing his position at the very last minute guaranteed that wouldn't happen.

" To prevent a vote on offshore drilling this week, Senate Democrats also let fail a bill providing home heating assistance for the poor. Same thing for tax subsidies for wind and solar energy."
.....
Many Congressional Democrats are working below the radar to craft a compromise
that couples drilling with conservation and programs to prop up renewable alternatives.
But the leadership won't bend even a bit, and so Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Reid have spent the summer using every parliamentary deception to evade debating the issue that the American public cares most about.

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The timing supports the idea that his changed position is a pose for political purposes. Perhaps if he'd come out of the No Drill closet earlier, he could've strengthened the hand of those working for a compromise. He didn't want to do that.



To: SilentZ who wrote (403829)8/2/2008 7:02:51 PM
From: steve harris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573927
 
You don't think Obama looks silly changing his positions and personal friends faster than Gallop issues a new poll?

Obama stayed with Wright because it worked for his state election, Obama dumped Wright because it became evident Wright was sinking his poll numbers nationally. I don't consider that "negotiating", it's been already defined in history as "political expediency".



To: SilentZ who wrote (403829)8/2/2008 7:23:06 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1573927
 
Obama caved to the polls...

No, he agreed to negotiate. There's a difference.


Are you suggesting he's willing to compromise? If so, then he is definitely an elitist and a socialist. Fixed.



To: SilentZ who wrote (403829)8/2/2008 7:26:50 PM
From: steve harris  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573927
 
Well, I just now came across this:

cnn.com

Obama says he's always supported drilling....lol