To: TJTHEMAN who wrote (3674 ) 8/3/2008 10:07:28 PM From: dvdw© Respond to of 5034 Securities Exchange Commission, might be properly characterised as the securities exchange omission, because they have fell down, have been co opted to the private purposes of entities seeking to undermine investors, leaving full faith and trust in thier authority with an approval rating as low as the congress....and yet they continue to obfuscate..(confident they will ultimately serve thier masters intent) There are no market prices, because Supply and demand are on hiatus, investors who actually own shares of the market are being subverted to the private interests of a cabal of self serving elitists. (most hedge funds began in law firms) weak economy....perhaps your fundamental antenna is broke.There are always strengths and weakness, by degree..... Stocks are being derived to private purpose. derivatives were never the solution accept for those whose scheme it is to deny actual shareholders a market price enabling social engineering of private property to cabals manifesting self interest. Those who dont understand that subversion of shares to private cabals, is illegal. Check all the broker dealers and thier earnings you'll begin to see that the customers they advertise to get, are subsequently entangled into schemes, to facilitate share transfers at ever lower prices while generating fee streams, to facilitate even further largesse. the sec is an organization that has failed to do its job, perhaps its because big money intimidates them? Perhaps its a hundred other reasons......but their job is not to spin and provide plausible deny ability, there job is to ensure that the markets float constant, can be exchanged, by willing investors at prices set not by counterfeiters, but by actual owners. in the last four years I've never seen a company come off the sho list with a pop....how is that? everyones eyes have been on the wrong ball for so long, the knowledge gap of the underlying bandwidth has widened from dumb to dumber...(this thread excluded) all stocks have a float, each floats origin was tightly regulated on market entry, fees were paid to bankers to ensure compliance with law, the provisional character of floats, change subject to rules, which are not open to the private interpretation of the cabals of interwoven self interest operating outside of prevailing law.