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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (138905)8/4/2008 10:49:53 AM
From: DebtBombRespond to of 306849
 
Yes sir, got 5 year option arm financial nuclear bombs going off?



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (138905)8/4/2008 11:15:30 AM
From: butschi2Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 306849
 
Firste Wave: Subprime

Second wave: second liens and ALT / options ARMs

third Wave: commercial real estate/LBOs going down

fourth wave: prime uptick on defaults from nearly zero in 2006 to around 3-5%.

Fifth wave: credit-card debt/auto loans/commercial loans imploding

Sixth wave: muni defaults exploding and no insurers left ;)

Seventh wave: T-Bills loosing value due to inflation

.... stock marketets crashing / GM/Chrysler/Ford having problems ....

All in all a long way to go until all risks are priced in for the balance sheets of banks. Especially the big banks like C have huge and opaque balance sheets and will have more hits to their balance sheet if europe goes into recession and ROW growth slows down sharply.

Until now the big hits could be deferred, but the money for rescues runs dry. Many retailers are imploding and jobs losses from retail should mount sharply, depressing CRE(shopping) values and another hit for the banks from retailers and CRE-REITS.

The most damage in jobs and BK´s from firms will happen just after the recession is ended! Therefore losses will mount for the forseable future 12-18 month or perhaps even 24 month.

And a CDS/derivatives armageddon could happen in the meantime or not.



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (138905)8/4/2008 11:18:38 AM
From: Sr KRespond to of 306849
 
That 'Times' author, VIKAS BAJAJ, writes "a second, far larger one is quickly building" as if there is something new and currently happening, like it's news. It's like demographics, and has been in place since 2005, 2006, 2007.

The media is running with the story, and the NYT still has it as its lead. So they must be getting a lot of hits.



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (138905)8/4/2008 10:38:07 PM
From: Pogeu MahoneRespond to of 306849
 
You want beach front, we got beachfront.
20 cents on the dollar
tell Lizzie to sell
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Housing Lenders Fear Bigger Wave of Loan Defaults

nytimes.com

The first wave of Americans to default on their home mortgages appears to be cresting, but a second, far larger one is quickly building.