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To: koan who wrote (82770)8/6/2008 2:17:18 PM
From: Little Joe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
Koan:

It may be that in the end you have to go with a consensus. I do not dispute that. My point the answer to evry objection is taht there is a consensus in favor of the Global Warming position. Surely, if they are right they can refute some ot the objections raised.

e.g. If they are correct how do they account for the flucuations between the medeval warming period and the global ice age. These both occurred at a time when industrial production of carbon dioxide.

e.g We know that what today is largely frozen Greenland was at one time a thriving farming area. The frozen areas had melted. This coincided with a period of human prosperity in Europe, where termperattures were so warm that Britain was producing wine from grapes grown there. This did not prove to be a disaster for humanity. If there global warming comes to pass, how do we know it will be a bad thing.

I am not willing to accept as an answer that there is a consensus. The proponents of the theory have the burden of proof. Why cant they just explain why the critics are wrong?
Why is the answer that there is a consensus?

If they can predict what the temperature etc. will be 100 years from now, why can't they tell us what the weather will be next week?

These are just are reasonable questions and there are many more posed by reputable scientists. They deserve answers and reasoned discussion, which just are not forthcoming.

I suspect that neither of us is going to convince the other, so, having said what I can, I suppose I will leave it at that.

Of course in the fullness of time we will know the truth.

Little joe



To: koan who wrote (82770)8/7/2008 1:25:48 AM
From: Stefan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555
 
Galileo and Copernicus were nuts too they defy scientific consensus as it was at the time. I would not use majority or consensus in science as a fact – show me concrete evidence. By the way where is the “ether” that was so well described in the early 20th century?
Keep in mind that scientists have agenda just like politicians; it never hurts to be skeptical!