To: Webster Groves who wrote (82856 ) 8/8/2008 12:32:36 AM From: Oblomov Respond to of 116555 Not all neocons were/are Jewish. Daniel Patrick Moynihan was Catholic, as is Michael Novak. The intellectual movement did emerge in magazines such as Public Interest and Commentary that had Jewish founders, so there was a connection. More properly, it was an intellectual movement of ethnics against the liberal consensus and the WASP technocratic vision of the state as an agent of uplift. The neoconservative intellectual movement was at first largely concerned with the failures of grand-scale, centrally planned urban policy, and with the Three Days War became engaged in Middle Eastern diplomacy. Neoconservatism doesn't really exist as a movement anymore. There are one or two magazines that might be described as neoconservative in outlook, such as City Journal, but City Journal also features libertarians and social conservatives in its pages. There are writers, such as David Brooks and David Frum, who seem to tend the embers of the neoconservative domestic mindset: support for the New Deal, rejection of the Great Society welfare state. In the early 80s, as Reagan came to power and he put some of the old Commentary writers such as Jeane Kirkpatrick (also Catholic) in diplomatic roles. But Kirkpatrick was a realist, and was not a believer in democratic institutions as the best form of government for every country. Many of the people who the left calls "neoconservative", such as Paul Wolfowitz, are Straussians, and don't follow the classic neoconservative style of thinking. Bill Kristol is a neoconservative, but doesn't share the realism of an earlier generation of neocons. It's both ill-informed and laughable to claim that Bush and Cheney are neoconservatives, as koan relentlessly does. They are politicians, and thus have no coherent ideology. Koan also claims that the GWB Administration is laissez faire (which a neocon would never be), but didn't Bush just sign a bill authorizing massive government intervention in the economy? No, I'm not a neoconservative, but I was greatly influenced by these books:amazon.com amazon.com amazon.com amazon.com Essential reading, IMO. I do think that many on the left are antisemitic, and use the term as code for "Jew".