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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (405145)	8/7/2008 11:40:39 PM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1577031

Total bullshit? Why don't you produce some links to show it is bullshit? I have produced links to back up MY claim. Bullshit you say? So, you refute my claims, idiot. I recommend you turn off the Michael Moore lies and do a little homework if it is a subject you care about. According to the study by Fraser Institute the average wait time to get hospital treatment is 17.7 weeks. In 1999, Dr. Richard F. Davies described how delays affected Ontario heart patients scheduled for coronary artery bypass graft (CABG) surgery. In a single year, just for this one operation, 71 Ontario patients died before surgery, "121 were removed from the list permanently because they had become medically unfit for surgery" and 44 left the province to have their CABG surgery elsewhere, often in the U.S. When asked for the average waiting time for biopsy of a possible breast cancer in a 50-year-old woman, 21 percent of administrators of Canadian hospitals said more than three weeks; only 1 percent of American hospital administrators gave the same answer. Fifty percent of the Canadian hospital administrators said the average waiting time for a 65-year-old man who requires a routine hip replacement was more than six months; in contrast, not one American hospital administrator reported waiting periods that long. Eighty-six percent of American hospital administrators said the average waiting time was shorter than three weeks; only 3 percent of Canadian hospital administrators said their patients have this brief a wait. discovery.org

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (405145)	8/8/2008 8:58:14 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577031

but try and tell Medicare recipients that the system sucks (that would be socialized med, would it not)... Medicare is not socialized medicine -- it is more analogous to single-government-payer. But you ask someone today who has used a non-par provider how good Medicare is. Those who use non-par providers have to deal with Medicare themselves (rather than having their providers do it for them, and payments go to the patients rather than the providers). It is a train wreck. Furthermore, if MC were the ONLY provider, many physicians would earn less than air conditioning repairmen. Obviously, if that happened, many of these people who commit their lives to the work of a physician -- with 10 years of post-G training, would decide to become AC repairmen instead. So, what happens? Long lines waiting on medical care. I think you and JF are about in the same boat -- spouting off about a subject you know nothing about.