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To: TimF who wrote (1447)	8/8/2008 1:25:45 PM
From: c.hinton	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3816

Tim, to call it nit picking is disgusting.... considering the out come.shame !shame!shame! those involved were honored veterans! "A month later, on July 28, Attorney General Mitchell ordered the evacuation of the veterans from all government property, Entrusted with the job, the Washington police met with resistance, shots were fired and two marchers killed. Learning of the shooting at lunch, President Hoover ordered the army to clear out the veterans. Infantry July 28, 1932and cavalry supported by six tanks were dispatched with Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur in command. Major Dwight D. Eisenhower served as his liaison with Washington police and Major George Patton led the cavalry. By 4:45 P.M. the troops were massed on Pennsylvania Ave. below the Capitol. Thousands of Civil Service employees spilled out of work and lined the streets to watch. The veterans, assuming the military display was in their honor, cheered. Suddenly Patton's troopers turned and charged. "Shame, Shame" the spectators cried. Soldiers with fixed bayonets followed, hurling tear gas into the crowd. By nightfall the BEF had retreated across the Anacostia River where Hoover ordered MacArthur to stop. Ignoring the command, the general led his infantry to the main camp. By early morning the 10,000 inhabitants were routed and the camp in flames. Two babies died and nearby hospitals overwhelmed with casualties. Eisenhower later wrote, "the whole scene was pitiful. The veterans were ragged, ill-fed, and felt themselves badly abused. To suddenly see the whole encampment going up in flames just added to the pity." eyewitnesstohistory.com

To: TimF who wrote (1447)	8/8/2008 1:33:50 PM
From: c.hinton	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3816

re miniscule ...tim how can you say such silly things...do you never do reaserch? "Some 3,662,374 military service certificates were issued, with a face value of $3.638 billion dollars. Congress established a trust fund to receive 20 annual payments of $112 million that, with interest, would finance the $3.638 billion dollars owed to the veterans in 1945. Meanwhile, veterans could borrow up to 22.50 per cent of the certificate's face value from the fund, but, in 1931, because of the Great Economic Depression, Congress increased the loan value to 50 per cent of the certificate's face value, yet, by April of 1932, loans amounting to $1.248 billion dollars had been paid, leaving a $2.36-billion-dollar deficit. Although there was Congressional support for the immediate redemption (payment) of the military service certificates, President Hoover and Republican congressmen opposed that, because it would negatively affect the Federal Government's budget and Depression-relief programmes. Meanwhile, veterans organisations pressed the Federal Government to allow the early redemption of their military service certificates."wiki

To: TimF who wrote (1447)	8/8/2008 2:02:23 PM
From: c.hinton	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3816

re cant afford more taxes.... Tim thats a silly statement with absolutely no factual basis. if the gov demands more taxes you will pay them . and ps if the AMT is not withdrawn you will be paying more taxes if you are lucky enough to have your earnings keep up with inflation. its called bracket creep...remember ? the best you can hope for is that real entitlements get erroded by inflation....but you will still pay more in taxes across the board since taxes are not inflation adjusted as well.