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To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (38696)8/14/2008 4:17:15 PM
From: Wyätt Gwyön  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 218068
 
Forer gave a personality test to his students, ignored their answers, and gave each student the above evaluation (see Message 24847758 ). He asked them to evaluate the evaluation from 0 to 5, with "5" meaning the recipient felt the evaluation was an "excellent" assessment and "4" meaning the assessment was "good." The class average evaluation was 4.26. That was in 1948. The test has been repeated hundreds of time with psychology students and the average is still around 4.2 out of 5, or 84% accurate.

In short, Forer convinced people he could successfully read their character. His accuracy amazed his subjects, though his personality analysis was taken from a newsstand astrology column and was presented to people without regard to their sun sign. The Forer effect seems to explain, in part at least, why so many people think that pseudosciences "work". Astrology, astrotherapy, biorhythms, cartomancy, chiromancy, the enneagram, fortune telling, graphology, rumpology, etc., seem to work because they seem to provide accurate personality analyses. Scientific studies of these pseudosciences demonstrate that they are not valid personality assessment tools, yet each has many satisfied customers who are convinced they are accurate.

The most common explanations given to account for the Forer effect are in terms of hope, wishful thinking, vanity and the tendency to try to make sense out of experience, though Forer's own explanation was in terms of human gullibility. People tend to accept claims about themselves in proportion to their desire that the claims be true rather than in proportion to the empirical accuracy of the claims as measured by some non-subjective standard. We tend to accept questionable, even false statements about ourselves, if we deem them positive or flattering enough. We will often give very liberal interpretations to vague or inconsistent claims about ourselves in order to make sense out of the claims. Subjects who seek counseling from psychics, mediums, fortune tellers, mind readers, graphologists, etc., will often ignore false or questionable claims and, in many cases, by their own words or actions, will provide most of the information they erroneously attribute to a pseudoscientific counselor. Many such subjects often feel their counselors have provided them with profound and personal information. Such subjective validation, however, is of little scientific value.

skepdic.com

Here are some excerpts from Myers-BriggsTM profiles. Note how parts of each profile could fit most people.

1. Serious, quiet, earn success by concentration and thoroughness. Practical, orderly, matter-of-fact, logical, realistic and dependable. See to it that everything is well organized. Take responsibility. Make up their own minds as to what should be accomplished and work toward it steadily, regardless of protests or distractions.

2. Usually have original minds and great drive for their own ideas and purposes. In fields that appeal to them, they have a fine power to organize a job and carry it through with or without help. Skeptical, critical, independent, determined, sometimes stubborn. Must learn to yield less important points in order to win the most important.

The first profile is of an ISTJ (introversion, sensation, thinking, judgment), a.k.a. “The Trustee.” The second is of INTJ (introversion, intuition, thinking judgment), a.k.a. “The Scientist.” The profiles read like something from Omar the astrologer and seem to exemplify the Forer effect.

skepdic.com



To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (38696)8/16/2008 3:09:08 PM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 218068
 
largest gains coming in sales to Latin American countries.

Exports to Brazil were up 43 percent, while those to Argentina leaped 65 percent and Colombian exports climbed 42 percent. But exports to Venezuela climbed just 10 percent.

Over There, U.S. Goods Ride a Weak-Dollar Wave
nytimes.com

Like I said: Coupled in reverse. Prey that we keep growing to keep the US economy humming nicely along.



To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (38696)8/16/2008 3:10:00 PM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218068
 
And it may show Europe doesn't matter" Whether the United States can maintain that export growth if much of Europe slides into recession, as some expect, is doubtful. But for now, the combination of a weak dollar and a strong world economy has allowed America to sell much more than before"

It could be that the rest of the world take the slack if Europe enter in recession...