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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (8758)	8/15/2008 10:15:57 AM
From: dvdw©	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

just am curious why Putin would do this while he was in China? A cynic could assert that it would give him the means of having been "taken by surprise" and that Russia's actions were a spontaneous reaction to "Georgian aggression".. putins word wide cabal of oligarchic interests believed they would enter SO unopposed. using all the current arguments of a prearranged insurgency, adding a depth of proxy force, (new headlines reporting the ru forces are robbing banks) recruited with money....the plan provided plausible deny ability.....which leads to recognition that.... "I also think there's a real pressure on the Russians to keep commodity prices high in the oil markets. Hence, they need to create some drama that would neutralize a collapse in oil prices. Nothing better than threatening the last major pipeline from the Caspian to accomplish that would be their logical conclusion." russia has an identity crisis, analyse what russia is today, not what she used to be, her goals now, might be best characterized to a range of goals which might include, reclamation of old identity, deeper control / influence over commodity market pricing, the prerogative to diminish US using alqueda model....sub referenced to kgb operational control concepts. you already know that russia is taking full advantage of the Naked short selling phenomena through its information/financial proxies.....russias actions are very far from being national, as they are no longer the national identity they were, instead, they have become an amorphous enterprise, with linkage too many like minded entities, scattered across the globe....accumulated under an old pogrom repackaged as it is to sustain the private largesse of its exclusive membership. does this say anything about the broader russian population and the former russian state? nyet. Russias population retains its old identity, nothings changed for them, they remain what have always been; the used, in service to the user.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (8758)	8/15/2008 10:58:00 AM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

The United States fiddled while Georgia burned, not even reaching the right rhetorical level in its public statements until three days after the Russian invasion began, and not, at least to date, matching its rhetoric with anything even approximating decisive action. This pattern is the very definition of a paper tiger. Sending Secretary of State Condeleezza Rice to Tbilisi is touching, but hardly reassuring; dispatching humanitarian assistance is nothing more than we would have done if Georgia had been hit by a natural rather than a man-made disaster. The European Union took the lead in diplomacy, with results approaching Neville Chamberlain’s moment in the spotlight at Munich: a ceasefire that failed to mention Georgia’s territorial integrity, and that all but gave Russia permission to continue its military operations as a “peacekeeping” force anywhere in Georgia. More troubling, over the long term, was that the EU saw its task as being mediator – its favourite role in the world – between Georgia and Russia, rather than an advocate for the victim of aggression. telegraph.co.uk