To: bentway who wrote (407287 ) 8/17/2008 11:34:55 AM From: Brumar89 Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574799 You are quite ignorant on this subject: Ben Franklin's thirteen moral virtues The thirteen moral virtues listed by Benjamin Franklin in his Autobiography: 1. Temperance. Eat not to Dulness. Drink not to Elevation. 2. Silence. Speak not but what may benefit others or yourself. Avoid trifling Conversation. 3. Order. Let all your Things have their Places. Let each Part of your Business have its Time. 4. Resolution. Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. 5. Frugality. Make no Expense but to do good to others or yourself: i.e. Waste nothing. 6. Industry. Lose no Time. Be always employ'd in something useful. Cut off all unnecessary Actions. 7. Sincerity. Use no hurtful Deceit. Think innocently and justly; and, if you speak, speak accordingly. 8. Justice. Wrong none, by doing Injuries or omitting the Benefits that are your Duty. 9. Moderation. Avoid Extreams. Forbear resenting Injuries so much as you think they deserve. 10. Cleanliness. Tolerate no Uncleanness in Body, Cloaths or Habitation. 11. Tranquillity. Be not disturbed at Trifles, or at Accidents common or unavoidable. 12. Chastity. Rarely use Venery but for Health or Offspring; Never to Dulness, Weakness, or the Injury of your own or another's Peace or Reputation. 13. Humility. Imitate Jesus and Socrates. Also... The Morning Question, What Good shall I do this Day? The Evening Question, What Good have I done to day? ploticus.sourceforge.net Franklin Requests Prayers in the Constitutional Convention Benjamin Franklin delivered this famous speech, asking that the Convention begin each day's session with prayers, at a particularly contentious period, when it appeared that the Convention might break up over its failure to resolve the dispute between the large and small states over representation in the new government. The eighty one year old Franklin asserted that "the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this Truth--that God governs in the Affairs of Men." "I also believe," Franklin continued, that "without his concurring Aid, we shall succeed in this political Building no better than the Builders of Babel." Franklin's motion failed, ostensibly because the Convention had no funds to pay local clergymen to act as chaplains. Speech to the Constitutional Convention, June 28, 1787 Benjamin Franklin, Holograph manuscript Manuscript Division, Library of Congress (145)loc.gov -----------------------------------------------------------You right wingnuts try to align yourself with the founders, but, if you'd been around at the time you would have been supporters of the British and the status quo. The founders were radical liberals. Funny that my ancestors were not supporters of British rule. Do we need to remind you the revolution began over taxes? The founders were certainly NOT radiclibs.