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To: coug who wrote (6051)	8/17/2008 3:33:25 PM
From: E. Charters	Respond to of 17109

In Canada they are no doubt trying to squelch Essiac but myriads of other supplementals that are alleged to have therapeutic effects as well. While it cannot clearly be shown that Essiac which is based on a supposed indian formula or Hoxey's formula have actual success against cancer it can be shown that they certainly don't do any harm. Initially these substances were thought to be scams, and if they had created legions of survivors, I believe the anecdotes would be much more frequent and compelling. However the individual ingredients of Hoxey's and Rene Caisse's formulae do indeed contain ingredients that have been proven in vitro to have anti-tumorigenic action and promote apoptosis. Notably Sheep Sorrel and red clover. Red clover contains alpha tocopherol succinate, a water soluble form of vitamin E that has known anti-tumorogenic effects and is the source of 8 contemporaray chemo trials. It is very successful in vitro. Sheep sorrel has many phytoestrogens. The anti carginogenci effect of phytoestrogens or tocopherol succinate was not known at the time Hoxey's formula was poo-pooed. The trouble with all these formulae and chemo in general is that cancer by its very nature is mutagenic and may adapt to any drug or chemical that causes it trouble. However as part of a battery of substances as in the therapy for TB, they may very well have some efficacy. For this reason I have long advocated that were interferences are clearly not seen, one should consider herbal adjuncts to chemo. In fact many chemos, such as vinblastine and taxol are derived from herbal medicines which were used by native americans. Essiac, which is Caisse spelt backwards was introduced by a nurse from Bracebridge Ontario in the 1960's. It was based on a formula given to her by a native who recounted cures and she (Caisse) hit on this by questioning a patient who had said her breast cancer, shown as healed with a scar, had been cured many years earlier by this formula administered by a native. Probably if she had a scar the native healer probably used a topical which may cause tissue damage. Natives were known to use blood root and golden seal for surface showing cancers and this did cause tissue damage. At the time President Kennedey's doctor got involved and there was commercial production of the formula. I heard about it at the time, but I have seen no clinical evidence of success. Essiac contains burdock root, Indian rhubarb, sheep sorrel, inner bark of slippery elm, watercress, blessed thistle, red clover, and kelp. A clinical study of blessed milk thistle recently found it effective against liver cancers. Elm bark and meadosweet which is probably the better ingredient, contains pain killers and digestive aids as well as tannins. Burdock has phytosterols and polyphenols EC<:-}