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To: i-node who wrote (407566)	8/17/2008 11:55:42 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1572365

But, if true and I don't trust the Russians at all, it means that we knew something was in the works. Ha. Only yesterday you were talking about "how surprised" Condi was. Oh why don't you stop playing your silly games. What Condi was surprised about is that Russia invaded Georgia. She and Bush thought they were being clever training Georgian troops and sending weapons over to them. What an incredibly stupid move......now we are embroiled in a mess that could easily escalate if we don't get Condi and Bush out of the picture...STAT. Frankly, I don't want the US fighting over S. Ossetia or even Georgia.

To: i-node who wrote (407566)	8/18/2008 12:18:12 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572365

"Ha. Only yesterday you were talking about "how surprised" Condi was." Yes, I was. Your point? "You're all over the place, man. Take a couple of deep breaths." Hmm. Ok, let me guess. You don't have an actual clue so you are pretending. What I was alluding to is that we knew Georgia was going to attack South Ossetia. After all, we did put the troops involved through some rigorous training. Did we advise them that Russia would not actually invade Georgia and that if they were able to cut off the tunnel through the mountains in South Ossetia then Russia would be screwed? Or did we merely agree with them? Assuming, of course, that the Russian reports are accurate and not just some neo-like lying through their teeth. But, let's assume that the Russians aren't lying. No real reason to suspect that, but... Ok, what do we have? Now, it could be that we didn't expect the Russians to respond like they did. In other words, we were caught by surprise. Or, we expected that response, but didn't let the Georgians know so that there was a crisis come election time. Or, it could be that we have some deeper plan that doesn't hinge on being incompetent or cynically manipulating a small country for purely political reasons. Not sure what that could be, but I throw it out there anyway.

To: i-node who wrote (407566)	8/18/2008 2:02:51 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1572365

"But instead of thinning out their forces in South Ossetia, the Russians appear to have been consolidating their presence there by deploying SS-21 missile launchers and, American officials say, installing surface-to-air missiles near their military headquarters in Tskhinvali. Such moves appear to buttress assertions last week by Russia's foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, that South Ossetia and Abkhazia are to be separated from Georgia. Western officials have also been monitoring Russian troop movements, which may be intended to strengthen Russian forces in and around Georgia. A battalion from the 76th Guards Airborne Division of Russia has been deployed from Pskov to Beslan, a city in North Ossetia. Several additional battalions from the 98th Guards Airborne Division at Kostroma also appeared to be preparing this weekend for possible deployment to the Caucasus region. Beyond South Ossetia, the Russian military has taken other steps to raise its profile. In recent days, several Bear-H bombers have carried out training missions over the Black Sea, according to American officials familiar with intelligence reports. The training flights represent the first time that a Bear bomber has flown over the Black Sea in at least two years, according to American military experts. The Russian bombers are capable of carrying non-nuclear cruise missiles, and government intelligence analysts have told the Pentagon that a recent Bear training flight appeared to simulate a cruise-missile attack against Georgia. The Russian moves are seen at the Pentagon as a way for Russia to demonstrate that it considers its sphere of influence to include Georgia and other parts of the so-called near abroad zones — Belarus, Ukraine, the Caucasus and the Caspian — near Russian territory. In general, the actions are seen as a matter of muscle flexing, or "force projection" in Pentagon parlance, and are not viewed as signs that Russia intends to make a major military push to take Tbilisi. Russian officials may also be calculating that their nation's military presence in the area may encourage skepticism on the part of some NATO members toward accepting Georgia as a member of the alliance. While the United States has strongly supported Georgia's membership, some allied officials fear they may be dragged into a war in the Caucasus if Georgia is admitted." iht.com